A weird one for me today. Just using a simple SF2 in Sampler of nice choir voices. I did the intial melody thing, and it sounded fine. I lasso'd the notes and made a copy of the shift up a 5th for harmonies and scaled their velocities to be roughly 25% less than the intital notes. On playback, there's this annoying 'clipping' type crunch to it? I checked the meters, out levels and all and everything seemed fine.
I tried other 'choir voices' I have in my sampler presets, and all were producing the same results. Then I thought my ASIO driver was going on me. I accidentally discovered if I deleted the original note(s) and replaced with a same step entered one, it cleared up the distortion?
So if anyone cares to verify, follow the steps above with nice single note string sounds or something. copy all notes and shift up or down, and see if the original is buzzy after. Maybe Scaling the velocities had something to do with it as well?
I'm on trusty 7.62 still for what it's worth. But if existing in OP8 beta - could be a issue then?
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Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?Just happened again for me today. And with a .OSP this time. Not sure if it's processor or RAM or whatever getting filled up? It was fine for quite some time, and then this disturbing distortion on shifted harmony notes in nother pattern I had just made. But cleared up again soon as I deleted and replaced the notes via step entry method.
Not fun.
Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?just the Sampler, no other generators/VST's ?
have you got Sampler set to Production mode with a decent polyphony? Last edited by machinist on Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?Just the sampler that gets distorted, but I'm using a fair bit of other generators though. Nothing to 'heavy' in CPU use or anything (TomCat, RealStrat, Helix, Sampler pretty well) Sampler itself is in 'Draft' mode, though I usually Stream with it in High Quality mode.
And polyphony is set to 24, and I'm using 4 note chords at best, but mostly duo harmony stuff. Probably the first time where I've played a single line, copied and pasted it for harmonic structure. And it's this that seems to cause the problem? Recording or Step entering notes and/or chords is fine. And copying/pasting chords and notes to A2, C3, etc. is fine too. It's only when I copy/paste shifted notes in the same pattern where this distortion occurs. Very slight, but definately noticable for me.
Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?an odd one..i had probs before if it wasnt in production mode, but i cant reproduce the prob you have here....
Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?Thanks for trying at least. At first I though it was the SF2 I was using. Then I had to modify it to go to a lower note range, and saved as a OSP. I was surprised after when it happened again. But maybe you're right, and if I stick to Production mode I can avoid it future? Thankfully all the stuff I've streamed over the years has come out well. I was tempted to try streaming this one to see if it would help, but I was just in such 'a zone' of writing and production I couldn't be bothered at the time.
If it's non-repeatable, no biggie then.
Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?its not repeatable here, but if it happens to you, maybe give some more info on the soundfont?
it may well be a bug, copy/paste same note problem or something...
Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?Yeah, I think it's a 'freebie' I scored off some home brew site? Not the best SF2 going, but had this nice tone of choir voices I was after.
Then again 'choir SF2's' are all over the place, so to pinpoint the find now I'd be better with a needle in a haystack. The little I know about SF2's aside from playing them and having a peek in Vienna on a few. Do they comprise of different bit rates within? I think that's why i liked this choir voice. It was nice, but 'grungy'. So maybe it's some old thing made from AKAI samples from 1989 and just crammed into a SF2 in 1998 or something? I know Rich forewent the low end sample rates for OP sometime ago. So I'm wondering if that's the trouble? And making a OSP from it would be still forcing say a 12bit 32k quality? (It's not THAT grungy - but you get what I mean ) I'll try and have a better look at this SF2 and/or OSP in Vienna and Wavelab and see. Just got so relaxed in everything being 16/44 and beyond in OP and what all these days, I forgot it may have issues with low res stuff.
Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?i know some low rates cause probs, had a few when i loaded lofi samples into sampler, shame, cos i too liked the gritty quality (or lack of) they had
i think i just resampled some if i needed to (bit more diff with sf2 tho)
Sampler notes distorted after copy in pattern?Thanks Machinist. Yeah, that's what I did pretty well too. Didn't dawn on me SF2's could be made with them as well. It's grungy enough to be 32k I think. Think I played some chords and it was kinda nasty - possibly distorted? So I thought maybe polyphony, or because it's Draft. So going down to a duo harmonic I thought I'd be safe. But weird how it's right on that threshold. But thankfully fixable by note replacement (at the same velocity too)
Just goes to show the old bosses pens don't work so good on the new bosses desk.
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