some1 at kvr was complaining the note length and velocity are not retained on the next note. but i checked it and it seems to work......but when you exit the piano roll and come back on it again, it resets.
is this reset the intended behavior? or should it have kept the last set vel/length?
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reset note vel/lengthI think it's intended behaviour, it was always like that, as I remember.
Note length and velocity resets on piano roll exit, and IMO, it's better that way. Imagine you have a layed out pattern, with velocities and lengths all set out, then go to make another pattern, just to realize it's all messed up. Considering that velocity values aren't shown unless you click the VEL button or bring up the event editor, you won't even notice the velocity is not on its default. This way, all one has to do is to know that the note that's punched in the grid is always "one square long", and its velocity is always at 100. It certainly has quirks. For example, it resets if you change the pattern length while still in the piano roll. Last edited by HYPNAGOGIA on Mon May 03, 2010 2:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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reset note vel/lengthI don't think I ever encountered this 'reset' business? And I do a LOT of entering and adjusting to notes in the piano roll. Even changing pattern length after adjusting retains the velocities and duration changes I had just made.
For me what happens if I enter a note, it's like you say Hypna. Now if the next note is say 3 squares long at velocity 72 and I stretch it to 4, and then enter a note after it - that notes 4 squares long at 72 as well. So kind of a drag I got to squish it back to 1 or 2 square and knock the velocity up again. But I'm used to it now.
reset note vel/lengthYes, inherited behaviour, where the note entered takes the properties of the previously entered note.
Might be a drag, but it beats having to edit every single note if you're on a roll of punching notes that have full 128 on velocity. Ok, maybe a bad example, as you can use Event Editor for that. *thinks of another example* Punchin' in notes 3 steps long Select all, and drag to 3 steps.... DAMNIT!!! Well, at least it's still faster :hihi: SoundCloud ::: Facebook
reset note vel/lengthThat's another bit of drag too that's happened to me. Thinking if I play quick notes into the pattern, I can grab all the notes and stretch them to 1 or 2 squares long after. But then some don't make it. and/or others slightly overlap. So when it's a mono synth doing a arp or bass line - I need them notes TIGHT!
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reset note vel/lengthIt's really one of those things that is handy sometimes but at other times doesn't matter at all. If that's the guy's biggest problem with Orion, then he's pretty schweet, I reckon.
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reset note vel/lengthin that case you may enjoy reading this thread
reset note vel/lengthAlready did. There is not one legitimate issue raised there. It is all minor, petty stuff that is largely a matter of users making the effort to adapt to the way Orion works, rather than trying to use it like it was some other sequencer.
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reset note vel/lengthHighly agree Bones. And some of the niggly quirks of OP is going to be in every suite more or less. It's been a while since I used XG Works, but if I recall if you lasso the notes and stretch them, they all default to grid snapping by 2 or 3 or 4. And it's usually for when I wanted things to sound natural and not so robotic. So it's always going to be '6 of one, half dozen of the other'. I'm just glad I got OP, WaveLab, and XG Works is all. Getting talked into Ableton, or tyring Samplitude because it was free in CM or something - total waste of time. Now if I was really unhappy with OP, and couldn't figure out how to make and place a Pattern in Song after a few years of using it - maybe? We know that stuff's so simple - and one would be a idiot not to get it... But maybe that MS Fun Studio would do wonders for the numbskulls then?
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reset note vel/lengthNumbskulls.... has a nice ring to it. Oh... they don't hear it ring :hihi:
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reset note vel/lengthI felt like a numbskull for trying Ableton and some others. And after the ease of doing so many different things in OP - it made me question myself AND Orion. But certain people are going to take to certain things and eventually meet one another at some point. Bones liked Korg, I like Yamaha - we both like OP. Joe Blow likes Roland, John Doe likes Oberheim - the both like Ableton. And so on and so on.
reset note vel/lengthI must say that I find myself in disagreement with you there bones. Imho all things in that specific tread cannot be reduced to a statement against users not putting enough efforts 'geting with the program' so to speak.
Sharing ideas about a host are progressive and enriching. That does not of course mean that we have to agree what are to be viewed as good ideas that are to be implemented in Orion.
reset note vel/lengthI think it's that so many are using OP for so many different things. Not that it can't be done with Cubase, or Ableton either. I just find OP to be so inviting now to try a jazz idea, reggae, montage assembly, glitchy FSU music, rock. Whereas looking at some of these other suites - they seem to scream 'techno', 'psytrance', 'pop' just in their appearance and layout. And yes, one can change the looks just as you can on OP. Be it Bone's wild graphics or others. Doesn't mean you have to play 'industrial music' just because you go with Bone's designs.
But to me, a bit of that intimidations going to be there. That's why I stick with good ol' 'Classic' myself. But I think 'looks' derive expectations, or lack thereof. Maybe users are trying to push OP too far? Maybe they're not pushing it far enough? To me, all the goods are there to be pushed where ever. Maybe easier for others on Cubase, or Reason - which I found difficult myself.
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Well, let me put it another way - almost ever request in that thread relates to something I either like in Orion or is completely irrelevant to the way I work in Orion. There is not a single thing I read there that I thought was a good idea or a useful addition. A lot of them were just different ways of doing things that can already be done easily enough or additions that are unnecessary for anyone who has taken the time to make Orion work for them. That's the thing, Orion works the way it does because someone [Rich, obviously] has taken the time to think things through and come up with the best solution, yet a lot of people who might have been using FL Studio or Cubase or something else for a few years open up Orion and want it to work the same way, just without whatever it was that motivated them to try some other host application. It makes no sense to me. The best way to get everything any software [or anything else, for that matter] is to learn how to use it the way it has been designed to be used. The classic example is the idiots who want to work in a linear way using a pattern based sequencer. WTF!?! If I wanted to work in a linear way, I would find a linear sequencer, not demand that linear sequencing be added to a pattern-based one. A lot of the good things about Orion stem from the fact it uses that pattern-based approach, so why would the developer want to dilute that? All that happens is you end up with something like FL Studio, which is an unusable mish-mash of 10,000 people's different ideas. Dell G7 (Hexa-Core i7)|Cubase Pro 10||Analog Keys|Ultranova|MicroMonsta|Uno|Skulpt|Craft Synth 2.0|
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