I was messing around with the sampler today....
and I've always found Orion to be tolerant to harsh/maxed out sounds
However, turning up the cut-off of a highpass filter seems to 'crash' the audio!?
Turning up the cut-off, affects the sample as one would expect
BUT, at a point, it totally cuts-off and turning it back down does not restore the audio
Even pressing stop and play, the sound doesnt come back, until the filter is turned off
It's as if the filter gets crashed somehow?
I'm using 7.62 on my laptop, so will try my main PC which has 8.5 on
I'd guess it could also be a soundcard issue?
Here's the Orion song file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ca10fhjxp5beesp
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Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??I cannot download that file; it stops at 7% 58.2KB, always. Please zip it and/or reupload it to Box.net, something went wrong on that Mediafire site.
Is the audio file 24-bit? I was experiencing weird audio muting with 24-bit files.
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??Downloaded fine here and problem confirmed. Can you give some details about the wave file that you used for your loop? If I replace it with some of my own loops then everything works fine. I also noticed that even with your loop it works if you switch the sampler to shared filter mode (the button in the filter section that says shared).
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??I've recorded a video of this
Download from here: http://www.mediafire.com/?s3t5q5h31hzl0dd Or play live from here (ie. saves having to save and open file) http://www.zshare.net/video/986862916719d618/ Last edited by traumatek on Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??Interesting it also goes weird on your machine too - thanks for checking
Here's the original wav file, and the one I clipped in Audacity to fit the bar osp files included too http://www.mediafire.com/?1q0zy13vjo1zjcr
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??lance - here's a re-uploaded version of the song file
http://www.mediafire.com/?bugocj4av0a4751 I should note - please turn volume down first, as it's pretty harsh sounding (this was just messing around rather than anything I'd use in a track) Although I downloaded the loop from a free site on the net just to test out sliced groove recreation, I edited it in Audacity and re-saved using a standard profile, so it shouldn't be corrupt, but could be?
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??It is weird. One thing I noticed is that with my loops the sampler runs at 4-5%. With yours, adjusting the cutoff on the high pass filter causes the CPU to jump to 55%. Your loop is heavily distorted, so I'm wondering if there is some sort of denormal problem here, i.e., HPFing the distorted parts might be generating denormal causing numbers.
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??
Thanks for reuploading it! Finally I managed to download it through the new link. What are the properties of the audio file? It's embedded in the .sfs, so I cannot check. Is it saved as 24-bit? I can reproduce the problem and it causes the same weird thing [at me] I mentioned before, it muted the audio, more precisely sometimes even for the next project, so I get no sound at all, I have to close Orion and relaunch it. I was experiencing the same with 24-bit audio files earlier. OFF: Phew, I have just survived the Mars probe impact. There was catastrophe warning in my country as it was projected earlier it could impact into Hungary too. Finally it went into the Pacific, it's in the neighbourhood.
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??The wav files are here
http://www.mediafire.com/?1q0zy13vjo1zjcr by traumatek » 15 Jan 2012 07:27 pm If it isn't clear from those, I'll try to save another wav later and check what the settings are. The original loop was heavily distorted, although I did increase the Orion volumes I took a loop off a free site on the net then opened in Audacity, trimmed and resaved It's a strange one!? It's possible I corrupted it somehow?? Ironic that the only reason I tested this was because I wanted to figure out a solution for there not being start and end points for the sampler 'recreate in piano roll'
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??I played with the loops that you uploaded added a bit of noise (to counteract any possible denormals) and normalised to -0.3dB in Audacity and resaved. Problem is still there I'm afraid. Have you tried saving from another wav editor such as wavosaur?
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??OK, this is weird. I've just tried this on my work machine, which is Win7 64 bit (tested 32 and 64 bit Orion) . No problems whatsoever. My home machine which I tested yesterday is Vista 32 bit. What OS are you on?
Another thing, both set-ups used ASIO4All. I'll check my home set-up with DX and MME drivers later. What audio set-up do you have?
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??I'm on Win7 32 using Orion 7.62 32
I'll test it out on my main system though too - Win XP, Orion 8.5 32
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??Reporting no problems with it, CPU "locked" at 1%.
Win7 x64, Orion 32+64-bit. PS. Should have issued a "hearing damage" warning. This thing doesn't have a limiter on master SoundCloud ::: Facebook
Re: HP filter cutoff crashes audio??
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