Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackModerators: Christophe, Mark
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Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackSo, I have my arrangement complete. All the filter tweaks etc, are recorded. Now I'm just trying to add a small vocal track, but when I go to stream the sample by itself or play the song....... Orion crashes, I then have to restart my laptop. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any helpful advice someone may have.
Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackAre there any effects on the Vocal track? Can you Play and Render the song without the vocal track?
Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackThere is no effects on the vocal. I am currently streaming the track "as is" and it seems to be working fine as a mp3 stream.
I should also mention that it may be caused by the technique I'm applying. Figured out a way to match the tempo and pitch of any vocal perfectly. First I load the vocal up in a sampler, match the pitch with the rest of the track and from doing so, there is an obvious need to adjust the tempo to match the sample. I then stream that vocal by itself, at the new tempo. Then I bring that streamed vocal into an external editor (audacity), adjust the tempo back without messing with the pitch (in this case, the adjusted bpm is 105, but the original is 166) Done this many times and it has worked out perfectly! Except for with this production...... not sure what is going wrong here. When it starts to stream, I get a message that pops up saying "Orion has stopped working, A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available". It even crashes when I change the tempo, from 166 to 105bpm.... without trying to stream. Is it because the engine may be overloaded from trying to do this process at the end?
Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackQuick update, figured out a way to make it work! Rather than streaming the sample at the end of the arrangement. I tried laying it out on the start and it streamed without incident
..... still acting sketchy and crashing on me though, even after the sample has been changed and loaded Last edited by TaToE on Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackWow that's weird. I wonder why the position of the sample would make any difference. Oh well at least you found a solution.
Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackI know, right! Think it may be just because I get soooooo much going on in a track (over 30 channels, easily) by the time I reach near the end...... it tends to bog down the cpu and probably the engine within Orion?
Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackI suppose that's possible but I can't imagine a simple audio track being the straw that broke the camel's back......What happens if you put a synth pattern at the exact spot? Does it crash there as well ? Whatever the reason this is a strange one........
Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackExplain that again as i have no idea what you are doing regarding tempo changes
Also, is it a sample or are you recording the vocal into orion? Windows 11 Home - 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400 2.50 GHz -32GB RAM
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Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackIt's a vocal I recorded online an loaded back into a sampler, as wav. I haven't tried this glitch with a synth line yet.... but just for shitz n gigs, I will and let ya know how it pans out.
K, so the way I have been working my vocals. I load it into the sampler, adjust the "wave/tuning" until I get the pitch to match with rest of the track. By doing so, I have to find the correct tempo of the newly tuned vocal. So I adjust the tracks overall tempo. In this case, the track's bpm is 166, but I found the vocal was playing for a 105bpm. From this point, I stream the vocal by itself (this is where I was encountering crash probs) at the adjusted bpm (105). Bring that streamed vocal into an external editor, I use audacity. Then change the vocals bpm from 105, back to 166. With minor adjusting, once loaded back into the sampler..... it should be perfectly matched for tempo and pitch That's the current technique Im using, probably a bit more labour intensive than needs to be and I'm sure they may be easier ways to do it..... but thats the way I have discovered and it works for me ............except for the whole crashing on my laptop n such. But this is pretty much the first time this particular glitch has happened, but not the first time a tune get glitchy near the end because there's just so much going on, I tend to stress it out I suppose.
Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal tracki still dont get it...you have a track already at XXXbpm, then load a vocal and adjust to YYY bpm, then adjust track to ZZZbpm...???
why not record the vocal in time to the track? also, i would say find you cannot change the bpm by that much...+/- 20 bpm is the absolute max, after that it sounds really bad. timestretch the vocal in an audio editor and load it back into Orion in the audio track, you can visually see where it need to be sliced and move to fit the music. Windows 11 Home - 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400 2.50 GHz -32GB RAM
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Re: Orion keeps crashing when I try to stream a vocal trackIts all good, my mind works in mysterious ways that I don't even understand sometimes. Certainly agree that you cant stretch the bpm much past the original, all depends on how your are slicing and which end result you are trying to achieve I suppose. Def have to play around with the time stretch abilities in a editor more, as well, loading the vocal as an audio track. There is always something new to learn and a million ways to go about the same outcome, just always so little time. Much thanks for the suggestions
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