Since there's such a difference in Cubase's and Orion's prices, I suppose Cubase must have some more advanced functions, and Orion must miss some compared to Steinberg's product.
I don't feel like I'm missing anything when using Orion, but I'm not very advanced in the related domains, so could anyone explain me the main differences between those two products ?
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Re: Cubase vs OrionCompare Orion to Cubase is like compare apples and pears.
Orion it's focused on electronic pattern based music,similar to Fl studio,but 10 times more intuitive and stable Cubase main "business" is non linear audio recording/editing
Re: Cubase vs OrionOk, thanks. So, yeah, they may not be oriented towards the same direction exactly, but they can still do the same things basically, no ?
So, in terms computer generated music, does Orion lack something compared to Cubase ? And in terms of editing ? (when you say editing, I assume you mean mixing/mastering ? Those 2 points interests me anyway.)
Re: Cubase vs OrionMain difference?
2 guys that work on Orion (plus VST and RE instruments and effects, and have regular jobs) in their own time vs "who-knows-how-many-hundreds" of employees that work at Steinberg (their LinkedIn profile lists about 60 people mostly in managers positions, so there are probably much more people than that) backed by Yamaha. That's the main and most important difference. Like Andy said, Cubase is more for the composers (think in terms of people that play whole pieces on their MIDI keyboards in one go), and is suitable if you have a lot of external instruments and effects. That doesn't say Orion lacks in that regard, since there are people on this forum who have been successfully using their gears with Orion, and you can record your notes in one go if that's your thing. Basically, when I think about it, Orion only lacks the Surround mixing that Cubase has, perhaps pitch-shifting and time-stretching too, since I'm not sure if Cubase has it or not. Orion has quite a good set of dynamics effects, which are expandable with VST effects, that you can use for mastering, and it's main centerpiece is the mixing desk, so no, it doesn't lack in that regard. Difference is also the use of "containers" where notes are being stored. Orion uses instruments' patterns for that; Cubase uses something else, I assume track clips of some sort. If you're using it for electronic type of music, there's no simpler software out there, trust me. Though, people have been making orchestras with it as well, which only says about its versatility. If you haven't already, I would suggest you give Orion a test run. Download a demo version and give it a go. It doesn't have any time restrictions, nagging screens or things that don't work. The only thing that is disabled in demo version is streaming/rendering and saving. Everything else is fully functional, and you are free to test it as long as you want. I am sure you will see how easy it is to work it, and for anything that you might find hard to understand, you can always come back here. SoundCloud ::: Facebook
Re: Cubase vs OrionOrion it's a great (if not the best) pattern based sequencer and it's intended to do these at 99%,yes you can record some audio,but it's more a bonus feature,than a main core,after many years and after many daws demo,these is my definitive set up
Orion for the great pattern based sequencer Renoise for some drums weirdness (and it's a great sampler too) Reaper to put everithing together These 3 daws together cost less than Cubase and They give more flexibility to my workflow
Re: Cubase vs OrionIt does not matter which program you choose. Each of them is aimed at the same result - writing music! And if you show dedication and imagination, you will achieve this result in any of these programs. Conversely, if you are looking for a magic button to create songs and are going to make music without showing any creative hunger (as the saying goes - "later the hoses") - none of these programs will not give you the results ... Remember one thing: hit, it is a mystery and unpredictable thing that is not subject to any rules. You can sing with a guitar and it will be a hit, and you can lead an orchestra, and ... if the product of mediocrity, then forty violins will to play that mediocre (certainly can be and vice versa). That's the only difference.
Now the choice. If you like mess about at a large number of settings, or writing music notes, or you have a lot of money, etc., you can choose Cubase (this is not a bad choice). By the way, if you're going to write simple (dance music), ask yourself whether you need for this sophisticated program (to drink the water, you need glass of, not the keg). I made a choice in favor of Orion. And never looked back. If to the same goal there are many ways - I choose the easiest. Do not twist the handle, if you do not know why you need it!
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Re: Cubase vs OrionI'd say the biggest difference between them is that Cubase has a stronger focus on recording audio, where all we have are Audio Tracks, which are limited by comparison. But if you are not recording live tracks, then there aren't too many things you can't do equally well in either. Some things will be easier in Cubase but a lot of things will be easier in Orion because Rich has maintained it's focus as a virtual studio, where Cubase has grown from very humble beginnings and has changed direction several times. Orion also comes with a lot more stuff as standard.
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Re: Cubase vs OrionAfter a few hours with Cubase these are my personal advantages/disadvantages of this software compared to Orion:
Advantages: - Less problems with third party plugins! - Much better audio editing functions (in my opinion this can also be relevant for electronic music!) - Folders in the playlist! - More complex sub group handling! - Freezing! - Maybe Variaudio Disadvantages: - Cumbersome piano roll! - no sampler! - No drum plug-in which is as easy and powerful as DrumRack - Everything needs a few more mouse clicks than in Orion! - No pattern mode! However there are "shared copies" covering at least some aspects of the of the pattern approach!
Re: Cubase vs OrionThis is an old topic... but I have both and make a lot of same projects in both applications.
Cubase better features than Orion: - Folders - Tracks colors (in Orion only patterns in playlist have colors) - Zoom - Automation (in Orion playlist automations are hard to find and see) - Create buses at taste - Audio manipulation. - Search Effects & Presets is easy. Easy clone and Drag & drop effects. - Less crashes. - You have everything to work from scratch, in Orion you need to add plugins for some features, and edit audio samples or tracks in other application before import. Cubase very very bad things: - Working with the piano roll sucks a lot, step recording is not comfortable. You spend a lot of time setting things. - The lack of "pattern" concept makes a hard work modify a complete project or can't make a quick reference to start. Without "pattern mode" you can't change patterns for testing how works a sequence of instruments in different situations, I think this is an Orion extreme powerful feature. - Orion load faster, Cubase sometimes will take a lot, that will kill seriously your inspiration. These are the main advantages/disadvantages for me. My main DAW is Orion of course, Cubase is there just to work with projects with a lot of big audio tracks or when I want to play hard with automations. "Pleeease, bring back ORION!"
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