ObservationModerators: Christophe, Mark ObservationWouldn't the Master return fader be a pseudo Wet/Dry as well Rich? I know it's 'output intensity' technically. But I keep thinking it's along the same lines as 'Mostly Cloudy and Partly Sunny' in weather reporting? What's the difference exactly? :confused:
Observationits not dry/wet, its send/return, return being how much of the processed signal is mixed with the dry and mixed together..not to be confused with dry/wet...wet being totally processed, dry being, well dry.
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Except that it's already too huge with just four. If you add two more sends and inserts, it would be too high to display on my laptop's 1280x800 screen and the two extra master strips would blow the Master Section out to a size where you would rarely, if ever, be able to display it side-by-side with the mixer. It would force me to go back to making my channel strips the exact width of the knobs and I would definitely hide the extra sends and inserts on the Channel strips so that they would effectively be ignored [except for the Master Section, of course, which would be irredeemably fucked].
It's so obvious and simple, it's not even a question - run your reversed cymbals through the same channel or a bus and use an insert and do the same for your percussion. That will leave two sends free. BTW, teh difference between a wet and a dry reverb is how much you feed into the send, so you could combine those, freeing up three of your four sends. Rich, the only way I can see to make all this useless extra krap work is if you also take the time to fix the Mixer skins so that we can make them more compact. i.e. Right now the height of each control is hard-wired to the 32 pixels of the default knob but if the height was based on the actual height of the bitmap, then a substantially more compact mixer skin could be made. The mixer strip on the left is as small as I can currently make it but the one on the right shows how much smaller it could be if this single change was made. Even with the extra sends and inserts it is still smaller than the current one. Unfortunately it won't help with the other stuff, which is actually the more problematic for me - I can easily ignore the extra krap in the Mixer but not in the Master Section. Last edited by bones on Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
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ObservationI think I just went blind looking at that Bones - OUCH! :schock:
Rich will have to include magnifying glasses with future versions then.
ObservationI work with 1920x1200. There's not problem with space on a 24" screen.
But if the skin is too small, it's might become hard to work with the mixer. Even on a huge screen.
ObservationThanks Rich and Bones for the clarification.
ObservationDaZoid, my 17" work laptop, where I put that image together this morning, runs at 1920x1200. I assume your monitor is at least 24", right? So if I can manage on a 17", you should have no problems at all on your monitor. These mixer strips are quite a bit wider than some of the older ones, on the Digital and Stealth skins.
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OK, I'll look into that. Alternatively, could be 2 more busses rather than sends. It's a bit easier to use a bus as an extra send than vice versa, as most users probably do not know about the "unlink send" feature buried in the right-click popup menu. Admin - Synapse Audio Software
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there are so many secrets I don't know about. How can I use a bus as a send? A send gets added to the original signal and then the whole thing routed to the master bus, right? Always thought that a bus channel works as an additional channel which is simply routed to the master bus in parallel. Last edited by DaZoid on Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
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It couldn't be. Suppose Orion has 6 sends, and I use a delay on Send #5, and it would be shared amongst e.g. 4 instruments but with different amounts. Could I achieve that routing them to a bus, if Send #5 wouldn't exist? No. I vote for 6 sends, 3 inserts, 4 busses. So buss maniacs can have 10 busses, but vice versa doesn't work. Sends can act as busses, but busses can't act as sends, so this 'turns the scales'. Orion needs more sends, not busses. Last edited by Lance on Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Right click the send knob: Linked To Channel Volume...
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ObservationI vote for 8 inserts and 8 busses :p
I dont find any use for sends as i cannot route the audio from there through an actual bus and lets say compress it. If we had the option to route the sound through a bus and not to master then ok. Emu1212m | Alesis micron | Edirol pcr500 | FOCAL CMS 50 | Senheiser hd 25-1 II | Core i7 etc
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6:3 is a nice ratio. Inserts can take FX Holders.
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