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how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Caine » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:44 pm

i tweaked this in the past in sylenth1 and i loooooooooove it, now i wanna test how it sounds in dune 2 but am failing at making this sound at all there :(

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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Christophe » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:27 pm

i will try in few hours ...
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Kriminal » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:53 pm

Whats going on in Part B and the FX? maybe upload the original patch and midi file?
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Kriminal » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:57 pm

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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Solid Technica » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:04 pm

The mixer for part B looks to be set at 0, filter routings say AB, can filter B effect sound of page A still?
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Kriminal » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:52 pm

Cant see the full image here... :?
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Christophe » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:22 pm

osc on page B are set to 0, so the filter routing can be set to A without changing the sound
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Christophe » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:55 pm

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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Caine » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:07 am

Kriminal wrote:Cant see the full image here... :?


please open the full image :)! and yes mix B is on 0 so only page A is active!

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BS Walker.zip


i need to check the FX on sylenth1 again and thanks for the preset i dont want to sound negative or not thankful but the dune2 patch is sadly not so close to sylenth1 :(
i ltry to learn dune 2 atm and dont understand why it sounds so different when making a patch in both synths to compare?
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Teksonik » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:58 am

Caine wrote:i ltry to learn dune 2 atm and dont understand why it sounds so different when making a patch in both synths to compare?


Because each synth has it's own character otherwise there would be no need to develop/own more than one. I listened to the Sylenth bass patch which is really simple and should be easy to surpass using DUNE 2. :wink:
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Kriminal » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:04 am

Upload the sylenth .fxp
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Christophe » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:43 am

Kriminal wrote:Upload the sylenth .fxp

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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Christophe » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:52 am

Caine wrote:
Christophe wrote:
BS Walker.zip

i need to check the FX on sylenth1 again and thanks for the preset i dont want to sound negative or not thankful but the dune2 patch is sadly not so close to sylenth1 :(

you are not negative, i will try again tonight, it's a lot of fun for me to copying preset from one synth to another
i ported some presets from sylenth1 to hive :dance:
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i try to learn dune 2 atm and dont understand why it sounds so different when making a patch in both synths to compare?

filters are different, the unison algorithm are different ...
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Oberheim » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:35 pm

I think it is possible. It depends on sound generation. With VA in Dune it not possible, but i try my own waveforms from SynthMaster and i am more close to the saw sound from Sylenth. Saw sound from Sylenth is more metalic or synthetic, from dune is more warm or i dont know how to ddescribe it. I make sound example, but first i try import more saws from synthmasters into dune.
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Re: how to re-create this Bass patch for Dune 2?

Postby Caine » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:59 pm

hmmhmhmmmm i needa learn some basics of synthesizers cause i thought a saw is a saw :D, if you check them in an oscilloscope you normally see that each saw from synth dont differ much?if so then the synths are not true i guess but have backgroundprocessing whichwould be like faking wouldnt it be? (not pointing at dune 2 or anything now, just overall thought)

i thought the bass patch is rather simple in sylenth1 that's why i was scratching my head why it does sound so different in dune 2. im still reading the manual of dune 2 cause i dont understand the discussions about the filters yet, i know what HP, LP, BP etc. are but not the reactions where people say this sounds different not so plucky etc. pardon me!

i edited the patch slightly, here it is :D!

https://copy.com/l0HaSH1nhRuPjj18

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is there some video, page etc. where i can learn the reactions of filters so i can also understand when ppl discuss dune 2 vs. sylenth1 vs. spire vs......?
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