Synths/FX and OP after complete reinstall.

[Dungeon Studio]

Just out of curiousity, my big ass lappy's getting totally reinstalled to get rid of this irksome virus crap. I've got my OP songs safely backed up hopefully. But my big fear is if I install OP, put the songs back and bring one up to play - does OP tell me what I'm missing synth and effect wise? Or just immediately substitutes with samplers and nixes missing effects? I have most of my VST's and all backed up too. So would be best to install them all before opening a song? Or does OP let me know what's missing, and I can depleat my arsenal somewhat?

[crimsonwarlock]

I seem to remember that it asks you to browse for a missing plugin when it encounters one.

[suneel]

does OP tell me what I'm missing synth and effect wise? Or just immediately substitutes with samplers and nixes missing effects? I have most of my VST's and all backed up too. So would be best to install them all before opening a song? Or does OP let me know what's missing, and I can depleat my arsenal somewhat?

if a vst is missing then, you are shown a window, to point to the location of the vst dll. If you hit the cancel button only, the sampler is loaded, not otherwise.

better to install plugins and then open your sfs. that way if you still get some msg, you know you have to install that vst or not. in either case unless you save your sfs finally, your original content is still intact.

[Dungeon Studio]

Thanks guys, you refreshed my memory. I remembered samplers popping up long ago - but you're right in that it does ask for xxx.dll beforehand.

Now effects though, would they be the same? I kinda recall loading something up and it sounded so different. Turned out I deleted some FX, and don't think OP forwarned me loading the song? Or it did, and I cancelled it, then saved the song after - more than likely.

[Teksonik]

Create a project, load a vst effect, temporarily remove that plugin from your folder, reload the project and see what Orion does?

[Teksonik]

Ok I just tried it........Orion will report the missing effect plugin by name and ask you to point to it's location.

[suneel]

Now effects though, would they be the same?

same, but obviously it wont load the sampler, it will load some other effect like a delay. And when you press play your like wtf?? either install the fx vst before hand or delete the orion inserted temp fx if you know where the fx was replaced.

[Dungeon Studio]

Thanks guys. That's the one that worries me. Recently I've gone the 'simple route' just using OP comp's and reverbs mainly. But my old stuff where I'm using Smex FX and NDC and Phutboy's et al. Many are the same in nature, but they're not. So best to install ALL of them beforehand so as to not get messed up and confused.

Wish OP could address that like VSTi's, but maybe in OP9?

[HYPNAGOGIA]

I think Orion addresses missing VST/i's quite well... or maybe I'm missing what you mean?

[Dungeon Studio]

Just when it comes to effects. I think Suneel's saying if I had used a weird NDC fx as a insert or send and don't have it installed when I load the song, OP just ignores it and opens the song anyways - pointing out missing VSTi synths needing to be located or replaced with samplers. Or maybe I'm missing something there too?

[suneel]

Just when it comes to effects. I think Suneel's saying if I had used a weird NDC fx as a insert or send and don't have it installed when I load the song, OP just ignores it and opens the song anyways

and replaces your NDC fx with a delay fx, so watch out.

[Dungeon Studio]

Thanks Suneel, so I was right then. No warning or anything? If the fx .DLL isn't found on loading - BOOM! Delay is substituted.

OP could improve on that I would hope.

[HYPNAGOGIA]

Nope.

Orion informs you that it's missing, and asks you to point to the new location where the .dll file is. It's same for VST instruments and effects (as it can never happen with internals)

[suneel]

Thanks Suneel, so I was right then. No warning or anything?

er no...thats not what i said.

IF it is a vsti
-you are prompted with a window to select the location of the dll
- if you press cancel it is replaced by sampler


IF it is a vst
-you are prompted with a window to select the location of the dll
- if you press cancel it is replaced by a orion effect usually some delay fx

[Dungeon Studio]

Ahh okay. So it does prompt you to the missing fx name/dll then and gives you a chance to locate it or exit and install. If you continue anyways without it - THEN it substitutes for a delay.

That's better then.