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Sidechaining steps?It would be great if someone could put together a short document outlining a few steps (with screenshots) for the say - 3 most popular ways to sidechain things. I know some people sidechain gates to get that stutterring effect. Others sidechain compressors (very popular for techno / hip-hop and the such) so that say - a bass drum hits but ducks behind a bass guitar (if it is playing) to prevent bass distortion when they're competing with each other. I know this forum is more for posting tips than soliciting them - but I've done a couple searches and don't see sidechaining instructions posted anywhere ( ? ) This being said - I haven't checked the manual yet (will when I get home).
Last edited by ash477 on Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Sidechaining steps?Surely it doesn't need explaining in Orion? Wherever their is a SIDECHAIN input, you select a source and away you go. Job done, no complex steps required (less than 3 mouse clicks).
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Thanks. Yep I tried that earlier with V8's compressor on some Toms, set it to sidechain on a bassline that I had. I have to tinker with it somemore, I'm still not getting that thumping bass sound yet. The toms are definately loud... I just don't hear it ducking to allow the bass guitar thru but I'll tinker some more w/ it.
Re: Sidechaining steps?the compressor affects the sound of the channel it's put on. the effect is also controlled by that sound by default, or if something is sidechained (terminology?) the effect is controlled by that instead.. but it still affects the sound of the channel it is placed on.
Consider that, read up on what a compressor does, and switch the way you set up the kick and bass. For the effect I assume you are after, the compressor should be on the bass and the kick fed into the sidechain.
Re: Sidechaining steps?Thanks for the comments. I decided to route my vocals to a Send with V8's compressor. Then I decided to route a few guitars to that same Send. On the V8 compressor, I specified to sidechain the vocals. (The desire was - make these loud when the vocals stop.) After some fooling around I think I got the desired effect - although I'm not sure if what I did is a "generally accepted audio-recording technique ?
Previously, I would just use automation to change the volume of the generators and this seems to be less of a hassle. I did have to take down the ratio of the compression to 2-to-1 otherwise I wouldn't hear those guitars at all when the vocals played. At higher compression, they became almost muted when the singing occurred due to the sidechain. At lower compression, I get the effect that guitars are softer when the vocals are playing, and then louder afterwards.
Re: Sidechaining steps?
If you have some synths and a vocal track, and you want the synths to get quieter during vocals, one option would be to: route the synths to Bus 1 and the vocals somewhere else. You normally would not route the vocals to the same bus. Insert the compressor on Bus 1, so now the compressor is affecting the sound on bus 1 (the synths). set the side-chain input to the vocal track. adjust settings accordingly.
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