bones wrote:crimsonwarlock wrote:I do music that sometimes use more then 4 buses, but I wouldn't do that in Orion.
Under what circumstances? Is it because you run out of Sends and start using busses? i.e. If we had 6 sends, would that reduce your reliance on busses?
Nope, I don't use busses for sends. I use busses for sub-mixes: drums, percussion, backing vocals, main vocals, orchestral parts (like string arrangements) and other things that need grouping. It helps breaking down complex mixes. However, in Reaper I don't use busses at all as it has mix-folders which are much more handy to do sub-mixes. Mix folders are like a modern form of bussing to me
EDIT: thinking of it I think Orion would benefit much more from mix-folders then it would from 'more busses'
bones wrote:crimsonwarlock wrote:Orion has everything you need to make great music (within Orion's scope of musical styles).
I don't feel Orion has any such restrictions. I would happily do an orchestral score in Orion if I needed to, I don't feel limited by it in any way whatsoever. I'd even be game to record and mix a band with it if I had to.
I do agree with you to some point here. I could do an orchestral score in Orion as well as that would be one big mix. But when you want to insert that orchestral mix into a bigger song with other instruments like guitars, drums and vocals, sub-mixing becomes paramount. Orion is not really geared (yet) towards complex mixes and arrangements.
As for recording a band; people are not machines (synths and sequencers are) so you need several takes to record a band properly. Orion seriously lacks functionality in this area like take-management, punch-in/out, ability to make separate monitor-mixes for recording participants, etc. When you start recording bands you need software that can sit in the middle of a REAL studio. Orion will never be such a solution (and that's fine). Orion is aimed at having everything ITB.
I'd say you can do anything and everything with Orion but that doesn't mean that Orion is always the right tool to do it. Rich has acknowledged on several occasions that Orion is aimed at a certain user demagogic. There's nothing wrong with that. I've asked for all kinds of things in the past, fighting this fact. Now that I have another DAW that is much more geared towards the other things I like to do, I'm back at Orion for what it is and it makes me a lot more happy with it.
But that doesn't keep me from looking forward to what OP8 will bring