Hello!
I'm using orion since the first releases.
It's the fastest software in editing patterns, songs, and handling envelopes.
So it's really a nice job!
The only failure that I've found in it is the mastering part of the software.
It has a little box like sound, and it's hard to fix that problem without vsts.
But I hope those problems will be fixed in the next versions.
I think many orion users really like, or hope to get the program on portable machines, to create their "sketches" and export them in .sfs format, because I can't bring my notebook everywhere, but psp for example is a lot smaller.
Will orion ever be released in portable format, or only an orion compatible editor for psp, or iphone? I think the psp's CPU and memory can be enough for creating 8-16 channels.
I've always got some new music ideas in my head, so I really like to create them everywhere!
Special thanks,
LuXoid
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Orion portable...Hi,
On the one hand you talk about Orion not beeing able to handle the mastering part well, which means, it's not professional enough from your perspective. On the other hand you want Orion to be a toy application for PSP or iPhone. How does this fit together? But the iPhone thingy could be interesting for Rich. Not to port the entire application to iPhone but make an iPhone App and sell millions of copies... That could boost sales and bring extra money for the company.
Orion portable...
If you know what mastering is, then you know you can do mastering in Orion. I disagre on the box like sound, the summing/mixing engine of a DAW software can't make the sound boxy, it's just neutral math. Your end result depends on what sound source; instruments and effects you use and how. For portability, use Orion on a small laptop/nettop, it's easy on the CPU.
Orion portable...LuXoid on DaZoid action!
Orion portable...I thought that orion sounds a little blunty without mastering vst-s...
I'm using orion on pc to create, and finalize tracks, but I like to create my "notes" for orion on psp, when I'm not near a computer (travelling, etc), and later copy those ideas from psp to pc, and finish that song on it. I don't like to create the whole song on portable stuff.
Orion portable...I understand that the mastering is depend on the instrument types, the quality of each sound, EQ-s, limiters, and compressors on each track.
But I figured out that there's some another host what sounds more better than orion without any mastering, but I don't like to create with them, because for me orion is the best.
Orion portable...to me, that implies that the other host is doing something without your knowing it; and therefore without your control. I'd rather be in control of my sound.
Orion portable...I didn't loose any of controls of my sounds. I know what I'm doing.
Only I like to tell you that in orion is much harder to create good mastering than in an other host, which gained more popularity because it sounded better, and when you put some vst instrument into or use a sample, then it sounds more complex, and it's easier to master. But editing patterns, songs in orion is faster, and better than in any other hosts, and I really like the interface. I know what I'm talking about, because I've a lot of friends who dropped orion or just using the pattern editor because of that mastering reason. I don't wish to attack our host, only I like to help to get more popularity.
Orion portable...hi luxoid, i literally just got a (used) psp this week for it's portable music making potential. i managed eventually to get it set up for homebrew and install pspseq - only had an hour or two with it so far, but impressed with the noises it makes and the level of control in the loop sequencer.
what do you use on your psp? orion would be very exciting in this format but would need lots of modifications due to the interface - no pointing device! i doubt rich could spare the time or think it would generate sufficient sales - after all, all the psp music stuff at the moment is freeware. Last edited by harddisco on Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
Orion portable...why not get one of those horrible 'netbooks' ? they are small enought to be really portable and big enough to do some music stuff.
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Orion portable...
Little box like sound? I think it would be interesting to note here that over the years, not one member here ever said Orion produces the sound like it was coming out of a little box, hence I don't think anyone here thinks there is a problem with that. And maybe you could do a comparison, just to show us what you mean by that, because I certainly have no idea what you're talking about? Make two exactly the same sections, a loop sound, whatever, in two different hosts, and post both here for comparison with some details what you did in the process. Because if this goes on like this, without anything hearable, people putting out their beliefs, it will just flame up, insults will be thrown around and we'll get nowhere. So, since it seems you have access to some other hosts as well, let's hear something we can compare. Also, I would say it's not, what you called, a mastering issue. The whole sound design process starts on the beginning after all, with the instrument itself. If I would've found that I have a "blunt" sound, I would check that, if I were you. Maybe even the whole setup, being that you haven't said what you're using to actually hear the sound (what audio interface, speakers/headphones, etc).
Another thing to note: Rich discontinued Pro version because it was hard for him to maintain two versions, being that he practically works alone (I don't know where Jouni's stand on this is at the moment), having to earn a living by doing other jobs, and you think it will be easier to make it work on a console-type portable device? And a one that's powered by a Playstation engine nonetheless. I really doubt it will, maybe sometime in the future, if Synapse Audio grows into something big, but I really doubt.
That would be? I've had a chance to hear Nuendo and FL Studio so far, plus some other less-known hosts. I haven't notice any distinctive difference with Nuendo, and I don't even have to go and say about FL. As clean as it may sound, it's too mechanic for my taste, surgically clean as some might call it. I always thought about Orion's sound as more organic, natural.
Try telling that to Protonica, Novakill and a bunch of other projects and people who use Orion and actually release their music that you can't master your track in Orion. And even though I don't know if you know what you're doing, being that I never heard anything that you made, I'm not very convinced you know what you're saying. You keep talking about mastering, but without putting any effects or treating your master output (??), cause that would be mastering. The sound that comes out without even touching the master isn't mastering. Everyone knows that to get to the mastering, you have to treat the sound that's coming to the master output with effects and/or EQ. I would say it's more of a mixing thing you're talking about... at least that's the impression I got from reading what you wrote here. Last edited by HYPNAGOGIA on Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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because, a netbook is way out of my budget! i got my psp for £40 from a local child!! :shame: Last edited by harddisco on Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Orion portable...
i rest my case.... Windows 11 Home - 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400 2.50 GHz -32GB RAM
250GB SSD - 1TB HDD | M-Audio Oxygen 25 V
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Orion portable...
I've got to have a netbook...............don't need it but it is high on my most wanted toys list. My laptop seems so big now it's like carrying around the kitchen table....
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