Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naModerators: Christophe, Mark
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Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naHello,
When going along and there is some music written down in the piano roll - Either at the top of the screen or the bottom of the screen or both...... For example underneath the beat numbers (or hopefully soon the bar numbers!!!) a lane can be added on the horizontal axis which maybe can be shown or hidden by a close window option with the chord names for example: C/Dm/F/ G I II IV V So the key of the song is C and you wish you keep track of the chord names as the song tracks through the measures. To add chord symbols would take it a stage further but for the purpose of easing the writing process it would really be nice/handy/beneficial for this to be added and if users didn't want to use it the lane could be hidden out of sight........ letters could be added via the QWERTY keyboard that we all have....... :music:
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naNot a bad idea Fraz. I know with MusicLab Real Guitars thay're certainly great at picking up and displaying chord notes in a instant.
I also use software called Songbird Suite, which is also handy in arranging and transposing chords between guitar and/or piano. Sadly though, it just plays off the MS GM soundset as best as I can get it. It certainly can be possible, and should be on OP in the bottom left as well for playback at the least. I suppose inserting chords would have to be lasso'd afterwards and verified. IE: C-F-A, lasso and click any of the red notes and hear the chord play with 'F' displayed bottom left. I don't think OP could get into augmented 7th's and suspended 13th's - but even just a lower case 's' or 'm' to signify sharp or minor would be helpful. Last edited by Dungeon Studio on Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naHi Dungeon,
It sounds like you are talking like chord recognition with some sort of artificial intelligence??? - This sounds good.... My thought was being able to write the chords in manually via computer keyboard into a dedicated lane/space so as to better keep track of the intended arrangement in line with the notes in the piano roll.......but chord recognition too is good........ Either way- Is there any chance that this could be included???? if say the piano roll was expanded enough to actually read something????
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naI think chord recognition is definately possible with either a VST plug that OP could include, or integrate it right into the piano roll.
Manual Chord entry is a good idea too, and could be feasible within OP as well. But may require more MIDI management and loopbacks - which I don't think Rich is to fond of. Recognition and display maybe more easy for Rich? Last edited by Dungeon Studio on Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naI don't use it much although I probably should but FL has a Chord function in the piano roll:
Choose your chord, click on your root note and it automatically draws in the rest of the chord. The OP is asking for a way to visually mark Chords in an arrangement. I could vote for both additions.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naChords? thats a bit 70's isnt it?
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naThe arpeggiator and be used (and I do use it frequently) to render a series of chords of up to 8 chords.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naThe arp is really nutty when it comes to chords. I used it in my song At The Edge Of The World, and it was the arp that gave it it's title pretty well. It was cool in what it did to my string section, but can now admit I didn't know what the heck it was really doing and/or how to really control it. Just kinda did what I did, and thankfully it worked.
But I'm thinking a Chord Display - much like the Time View window. One would select it from the drop down, click on it's Receive MIDI From at the top of the display, and whatever chord you play or plays back on whatever VST you've linked to shows Cmaj, Gmin, Fmaj7 and so on. Outside from compiling all the chord data and alignment - I think Rich could program that feature into OP in like an hour. But like a car, I think OP expects us all to 'know how to drive'. Fraz makes an interesting idea for chord inserting. But I think all could benifit and learn from a display better. Be you step entering C-E-G and seeing 'Cmaj' come up on the display, or playing back and finding out the bum note in the chord makes it Faug9. Good to know, but still have to fix that chord to be 'F'. But outside of a handful of us jazz cats, prog rockers, and folkies using OP here... I tend to agree with Machinist. An easy feature Rich to integrate, but a LOT of info to compile and coordinate to make it reliable. And with stuff like RealGuitar and maybe other VST's that can already display in use and/or generate (I beta tested a couple Fraz, I'll get back to you on that here.) Is it worth Rich's time and effort, that's the big question? Wow! Looking for my old thing I tested like 7 years ago, I'm amazed at all that has come out since! Just doing a generic Google search reveals a plethora of things I'm sure will work in and outside of OP! http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sourc ... =VST+Chord Hate to say Fraz, as cool as it would be to have in OP - it kinda already is. Just pick your pleasure.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naI don't know.. I just throw down a C in the desired octave.. turn off the arp, hit create chord and then render. Gives me the notes i need and i can adjust from there. I don't use the arp for anything else.. As a general rule, I don't like arps, so i don't even think to bother. but i love the chord creation.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naThe chord stuff in the arp is new to me, and honestly thought it was to step enter big techie Phillip Glass orchestral chords - which worked for me in a interesting way too. Not a big arp fan either, though fooling with chords in OP's one is actually quite unique - never knowing one can just dial up Gm7 and get a straight foward chord just like that as well.
Learn something new all the time with OP.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord na
Mono basslines. That's so 70's isn't it?
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naIn my opinion an arpeggiator is an instrument to be played.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naI think the arpegiator was a Bontempi or Farfisa invention to simplfiy organ playing for the amateur. But like the TB303, has truely become this 'instrument' like you say Tek. Me, I try to manually play any arpeggiated stuff, or step enter it and copy/paste and all in a edit window. But is impressive how some can really get a lot of action out of an arpeggiator now. I always look at them as 'Da-dee-Da, Da-dee-Da' makers.... Or was that Annie Hall with her La-dee-da's? :rofl:
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naWiki:
"Historically, arpeggiators grew from dedicated hardware sequencers of the late 1960s and 1970s, such as the 16-step ARP Sequencer, and the sequencers of modular synthesisers. They were commonly fitted to keyboard instruments throughout the late 1970s and early 1980s, notable examples of which include the Roland Jupiter 8, Oberheim OB-Xa, Roland SH-101, Roland Juno-6, Sequential Circuits Six-Trak, and Korg Polysix. Arpeggiators fell out of favour during the 1980s and early 1990s, and were absent from the most popular synthesisers of the period, such as the Yamaha DX-7, Casio CZ-101, Roland D-50, and Korg M1. The resurgence of interest in analog synthesisers during the 1990s, and the use of rapid-fire arpeggios in several popular dance hits, brought with it a resurgence of interest in arpeggiators, and most popular synthesisers manufactured since the mid 1990s include such a device." Last edited by Teksonik on Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Piano Roll within each Generator - Chord symbols or chord naManual Chord entry is a good idea too, and could be feasible within OP as well. But may require more MIDI management and loopbacks - which I don't think Rich is to fond of.
Manual chord entry would be helpful in displaying information a bit like a label and wouldn't need to produce any sound. If there was MIDI data in the piano roll it would be good to more easlily be able to identify chord progressions within a piece of music even if they are simple progressions..... Last edited by fraz on Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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