Another option would be a clone function in piano roll, through the edit mode.
With default clone to all instruments and copy all parimeters, but option to choose though which instrument not to clone too as well as not to clone parimeters too, via a tick box dropdown.
So Wasp#1 A1 to H8 in the piano roll would clone exactly to say Wasp#2 Toxic 2's etc etc A1 to H8 piano rolls.
To clone all three clicks edit/clone/ok a few more if you want to omit.
This would do what i think Bones wants in 3 clicks, but is not automatic and with those options included would be a little bit more flexible.
Now await comments mmmm
Global PatternsModerators: Christophe, Mark Re: Global PatternsThat wouldn't work very well because every time you changed a pattern or created another, you'd have to do it all over again. You can copy/paste all the patterns in one generator to another already, I just get sick of doing it all the freakin' time.
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Not on 8.5 it doesnt on 7 yes you had a tick box saying copy all etc maybe i got some bug but tried copy paste copy ctrl v ctrl c paste ctrl c ctrl v nana zilch only one at a time pain in the ass.
Re: Global Patterns@Bones
"Just press B, then 6 on your keyboard"? Well, that's superior to a single mouse-drag up or down in your world? Simple mouse commands are the fastest way to arrange, I want to keep that way! You're lying to noob public users telling we do not like your genius idea only because we don't understand it. Tell me which patterns I would get at an instrument for arranging in the Playlist with your global pool? Only those which I want to have specificly for that instrument as right now? The generators are having their pattern bank at the Playlist too! Your globall pool at every generator idea will affect and destroy the easy and fast Playlist usage too! I want to keep instrument specific pattern banks! I don't want a big mess of patterns of every generator! I don't like your 4 button pattern selector! I don't need your global pool! I don't want your global pool hurting, slowing and compromizing the current workflow and the way Orion handles patterns for creating, changing, selecting and arranging! I DO NOT LIKE YOUR IDEA! SAVVY? It's not about not understanding it!
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I think a global list of styles is closest to what I'm thinking of, but with a mechanism to change associated automation to parameters in different generators/VSTis.
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How I see it implemented in my head, nothing about Orion would be changed apart from having a project dependent database of patterns that could be used in the current pattern banks. That database could be saved as a template of course.
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CTRL-SHIFT-C to copy all pattern ! Yamaha CS-30, Roland SH-1, Roland MKS70, Focusrite Scarlett 18i6, Yamaha FS1R, Oberheim Matrix 1000, Novation Remote 37SL, Korg Legacy, Alesis M1Active 520, Novation Launchpad Pro, Push2, Intel i7-7700HQ
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ta prefer to use mouse hate multi function keys
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so, template is enough, imho, we don't need nothing, and it saves some dev time insert your template with your database pattern, and in the new synth select receive midi from it can even put patterns automatically in the playlist ! it's amazing ! Yamaha CS-30, Roland SH-1, Roland MKS70, Focusrite Scarlett 18i6, Yamaha FS1R, Oberheim Matrix 1000, Novation Remote 37SL, Korg Legacy, Alesis M1Active 520, Novation Launchpad Pro, Push2, Intel i7-7700HQ
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you never copied with the mouse ! Yamaha CS-30, Roland SH-1, Roland MKS70, Focusrite Scarlett 18i6, Yamaha FS1R, Oberheim Matrix 1000, Novation Remote 37SL, Korg Legacy, Alesis M1Active 520, Novation Launchpad Pro, Push2, Intel i7-7700HQ
Re: Global Patternsyou never copied with the mouse ![/quote]
mmm click edit click copy option box appeared offering copy pattern or all paterns well in v7 anyway then go into generator you want to copy to then click edit click paste.
Re: Global PatternsChristophe, are you drunk? You're not making much sense. Of course he copied with the mouse, by using it to bring up the copy dialogue.
Just so you all know, Lance has posted exactly the same response on a thread in the beta forum that isn't even about this idea. Some of his ranting is about other discussions on the beta forum, so if some of it seems out of the blue, that's why. I think he is starting to lose his mind, but I don't want his ill-informed ramblings to go un-countered, so here we go.
Where did I say that? There are 4 ways to change patterns and I use all of them. But if you need to go from A1 to B7, then pressing "B", then "7" is probably the quickest way to get there.
How stupid are you? Read what I said, you can use every one of the methods you use now and they will work just as effectively. There is absolutely no difference between changing from pattern A1 to A2 as there is 000 to 001. Its the same thing so why would you not do it the same way? I can't even understand why you would think stuff like this. It's pure craziness.
But you clearly don't understand it or you wouldn't be coming out with stupid bullshit like this. All you are doing is confusing people by saying things that don't make sense.
What would be the point of that? The whole idea is that you'd be able to use patterns from any instrument, so obviously they will all be available to use in the Playlist. That's the whole point of doing the thing in the first place.
Why will it? Generators now have 64 patterns available but that doesn't get in the way, does it? So why would 1000 or 10,000 patterns? If you just want to use 3 or 4 patterns, then you just use those, exactly as you'd use the 3 or 4 patterns out of 64 possible patterns now.
As strange as it may seem, I don't give a toss what you do or do not like. I don't necessarily "like" it either, but to me it is obvious that it would make Orion better. So far most users here seem to agree.
Then you're in luck, because it won't do any of that.
I'm not interested in what you do or do not like, your life means less than nothing to me. I'm interested in making Orion better and this change would address a lot of issues that we've all just got used to over the years.
With you, that is exactly what its about. Its like I've told you I just got a new pet cat but before I got the chance to say "cat", you've heard "pet" and all you can think about is how much you hate dogs. But I'm not talking about dogs so anything you have to say is irrelevant.
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no, but i am very ungry he is using the menu entry ? i have never used the menu to copy/paste in all my life but used to change the copy option in v7 to copy parameter or automation imho, the dev time should be devoted to enhance the automation management (ie copy/paste automation) Yamaha CS-30, Roland SH-1, Roland MKS70, Focusrite Scarlett 18i6, Yamaha FS1R, Oberheim Matrix 1000, Novation Remote 37SL, Korg Legacy, Alesis M1Active 520, Novation Launchpad Pro, Push2, Intel i7-7700HQ
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I've made every effort to understand the concept and it just doesn't make sense. You have not made any logical case for the inclusion of your poorly thought out idea so now you are resorting to shouting. I'm sure when I read further into the thread you'll be resorting to name calling and insults which you always fall back on when your argument falls apart...... Just as I thought "baggage" means people who've actually taken the time to think through how global patterns will be a mess and therefore rightfully disagree with your very bad idea........
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Are you sure all these pie in the sky ideas you have are even possible to code? How much time will have to be spent coding your horrible idea? And in the end it all brings absolutely nothing new to Orion.....
And there you go forcing your primitive and simplistic workflow on everyone else. You see I already know what sounds an instrument can make when I load it up. I don't have to go searching over and over so a new synth stumbling about in the dark looking for a particular sound. Besides you've already said on numerous occasions you only use Wasp and a few of your "Killer" synths so if you don't know what sounds they can make already then really there's no hope for you.....So right there your whole argument falls apart as it's apparent your are willing to lie just to shove this awful idea down people's throats.....
And if you use pattern Dune-017 in Albino it then becomes Albino-17? Or it stays Dune-017 and you've got a hodge podge of different names in each playlist lane? Then if you want to rename patterns Verse Chorus etc you lose all track of which pattern is which and if you go to edit one pattern it will change all the patterns in every instrument that uses that pattern whether you want it to or not. A complete and total Mess.......
Now you're just grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to justify an idea which you clearly have not thought out and clearly have no understanding what this change would mean....
Incredibly weak arguments but all of this can already be done in Orion with Copy/Paste and Clone To......if you for some silly reason wanted to use a Hi Hat patterns in a Piano track you could already do this now. Global Patterns bring nothing new and bring only an organizational mess.....
I already know the answer and the answer is Global Patterns are a horrible idea and no they would not be progress....
How? You've made no convincing argument that will be the case......
We can already use any pattern in any instrument now. So the answer is already "any pattern you'd like". You'd know this if you actually used Orion but anyone who didn't even know Clone To existed before coming up with the silly idea really doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.......
You've left too many "issues to be addressed" and not given any answer to questions....you're assuming everything will just work out the way you want without considering the effort it will take or the impact it will have on others
Again I know before I load an instrument what sounds it can make. If I decide that I'd rather use Dune than Albino I simply Clone To Dune and delete Albino in less than ten seconds....this function already exists..Global Patterns will bring nothing new.... Ok I've run out of time for now.it's off to work for me. We'll take this up later........
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