Hi.
Unfortunately Dune is almost completely broken and unusable in Pro tools:(
Using the native AAX plugin.
(legend is fine BTW).
You can't use more than one Dune, if you do, the entire project just becomes a garbled mess of distortion the second you insert a second instance of Dune 3.
Also, even if you are only using one instance, when you reload a project it sounds different. For example if you choose the patch ambient breeze, record some chords, all is fine.
Reload the project and the bell or whatever it is on top of the patch has disappeared and only the pad underneath will play
OS 10.15.2, PT 2019.12, Onboard headphone Out.
Hope we can get it fixed! Cheers
PS Neither bug affects Logic, it seems only the AAX is broken. I barely use Logic these days though, only to open old projects. Very happy legend seems to be working a it should.. I was able to open 60 instances in pro tools playing 8 voices on an organ patch before cpu overload. In Logic I can get 68 but Logic is the most efficient DAW on mac and PT is creeping up there now! Ny favourite DAW of all time
PPS When I install Blue cat patchwork later on I will try the AU and/or VST wrapped as an AAX in PT out of curiosity. I try to avoid patchwork these days because it adds overhead and in the mixer you only see patchwork so it's hard to know what it's hosting all the time.
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Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 ****NOW FIXED****Last edited by TNM on Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Macbook pro 16", 64Gb ram, 8 core 9980HK, ATI 5500M, OS 10.15.2. Pro tools addict who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, even with all it's missing features vs some other DAWS.
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(So DUNE 1 or Dune 3 is unstable?
Is it the vst3 version? Not an AAX guy so hopefully someone else will chime in here.
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(Dune 3.
I do not have dune 1 or 2 installed on this system it was a fresh install of dune 3.. The computer is 6 days old and currently only had my 2 DAWs and a total of 25 plugins installed. Sorry i thought i wrote it in the title, I must have missed it. No, not VST3 LOL cause PT only uses AAX. I doubt there's very many pro tools users here so maybe that's why it slipped past QC.. As I said Logic AU is fine, and i presume the VST will be flawless as well, although I don't have any DAW's installed that can use VST plugins. Just PT and Logic are installed and I use PT 80% of the time overall and 100% of the time for any new projects. I moved to it from Logic after 20 years exactly, back in 2016, because I have been reporting an automation timing bug to Apple with logic since 2007 and they just won't fix it, and I had had enough.. Basically Logic's PDC engine does not compensate automation on track inserts, and since I use many plugins with latency, NONE of my Logic automation plays back where it is actually drawn.. each track has a random delay time, could be half as second out of time, a second even, or just 20 ms which is still enough to ruin rhythm based volume automaton (for example). I tested all DAWs and only PT and Studio one passed the automation PDC test with flying colours, but I loved the PT GUI, hated the S1 gui, and started to learn PT and bought it a week later and never looked back. To me it was the easiest DAW to learn on Earth but it's also the only one that if there is a problem with a plugin, sadly it's usually the AAX.. Stuff like MCDSP or waves never has an issue, cause they are hard core pro tools supporters from day one, but I often have bugs with indi devs and AAX that don't happen in the AU version, although I have never experienced not being able to use more than one instance of something before. I think this might be related to the bug that someone reported months back that Logic could not use more than one instance of Dune 3, perhaps the AU got fixed but no one realised the AAX had the same issue. We'll see Cheers. Macbook pro 16", 64Gb ram, 8 core 9980HK, ATI 5500M, OS 10.15.2. Pro tools addict who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, even with all it's missing features vs some other DAWS.
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(not sure if there are any PT beta testers, might just be Richard/Marcin
does it happen on a new project with just multiple instances of D3? Windows 11 Home - 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400 2.50 GHz -32GB RAM
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Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(
Indeed, that was the second thing I tested.. Fresh project, 0 plugins, one track of dune, fine. Create second instrument track, add dune, garbled mess. Created another one to test the reload issue also. Just one dune 3 in the project, nothing else, loaded a patch and recorded a few midi notes, no volume editing or control messages, reload, and parts of the patch are missing.. obviously it's disabling a layer on reload. So yeah, i don't see how I can use it at all.. even if i wanted to use one instance, I can't reload my song and it sound the same when I hit play LOL. I will just wait as I am sure it will be fixed. On another note, I am more than happy to be a PT beta tester for Synapse at any time and for any future plugins, no reward required . Would just be happy to do it for them and help get the plugins the best they can be. PS good to see you Krim. Macbook pro 16", 64Gb ram, 8 core 9980HK, ATI 5500M, OS 10.15.2. Pro tools addict who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, even with all it's missing features vs some other DAWS.
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(I don't use Pro Tools either or own a Mac. But as a wild guess what happens if you turn off Dune 3's Multi-threading ? Would that help the distortion issue ?
I'm not sure anyone else here is using Pro Tools on a Mac except for Rich and Marcin. Perhaps they were only able to test the AAX version on Windows ?
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(
Tried that. Macbook pro 16", 64Gb ram, 8 core 9980HK, ATI 5500M, OS 10.15.2. Pro tools addict who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, even with all it's missing features vs some other DAWS.
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(Ok this is REALLY weird...
There seems to be no setting to instantiate Dune 3 with multi thread off (not that I can find anyway). so even though i turned the first one off, it turns on on the subsequent when I insert it. I turned it off and it worked. But this is the weird part.. I turned it off and then back on to see.. and it stayed working. Now there are 4 working with multithread ON. It's like they had to be disabled and then reenabled once and now it works.. SO weird. Thanks Tek. Macbook pro 16", 64Gb ram, 8 core 9980HK, ATI 5500M, OS 10.15.2. Pro tools addict who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, even with all it's missing features vs some other DAWS.
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(I have put two dune side by side on the same patch when reloading a project, and reseting one of the dune's patches so it goes back to being correct (in this case we are using Ambient Breeze EDT), to see what was different between the one playing half the sound and the one now playing all of it again.. I can not see a single different setting anywhere.. I have absolutely no idea why the sound won't save properly with the project.
Macbook pro 16", 64Gb ram, 8 core 9980HK, ATI 5500M, OS 10.15.2. Pro tools addict who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, even with all it's missing features vs some other DAWS.
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(I've worked it out.. All the other voices are loading back with completely different settings to the original patch. That's why not only have parts disappeared, the volume is also very loud on the reload.. it's weird...
I didn't see it at first cause i didn't see the voice edit on the right hand side.. 2, 3, 4 etc, not one of them match the original patch on project reload. I am only testing this so far with unedited factory patches to show the issue... Still.. glad the multi instance issue is working now but yeah, I still won't be able to use it till reload is fixed but that's ok, things happen, and I do know it will all work out in the end! I don't want to go editing patches LOL and find something great then reload tomorrow and it's all gone So for now I just won't use it Can't use the factory patches either unfortunately.. and there are certainly some excellent ones! Oh, re the cpu usage, I changed my tune on that, I didn't realise it was at the lowest cpu setting when i wrote the other topic LOL.. This thing can be a complete monster! But sounds great! Macbook pro 16", 64Gb ram, 8 core 9980HK, ATI 5500M, OS 10.15.2. Pro tools addict who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, even with all it's missing features vs some other DAWS.
Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(Thanks for your report
With PT 2019.12, you mean the Catalina version released just yesterday? We'll look into it, if something changed in PT though we'll need some time of course to adapt to those changes. Admin - Synapse Audio Software
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Re: Dune 3 basically unusable in PT 2019 :(
Well i'd love to test it on my other computer but I don't want to use a new license authorisation as that is being sold soon..so... That has PT 2019.10 and mojave. But yes indeed the version of PT just released as no previous version will launch on Catalina. Since the topic started, I tested so far all the fab filter synths, arturia V collection 4, audiothing, all the air music tech ones that are included as a separate installer with PT, UVI Falcon, ,Softube, and of course your own "the legend" and all reload flawlessly.. I also even tested a bunch of FX like my tape FX and EQ's etc to make sure things reloaded properly.. With Fab filter I used every band to create a crazy EQ curve and it worked perfectly I too wanted to see if it was a broad PT issue.. only Dune has the issue thus far I'm afraid. But sure, it might be Avid, who knows.. Honestly though, AFAIK *all* they did for this release was remove the 32 bit video components so PT could install on Catalina for now.. there's no other changes. The other thing is, being a 6 day old computer, there's no junk ware installed at all.. No games yet, nothing. Not even an audio interface, just using the internal headphone out into IK Iloud. So far all that's installed is Logic 10.4.8, PT 2019.12 which was a direct install not an upgrade, The OS which again was not upgraded as I did internet recovery on day of arrival so it could install fresh with 10.15.2, and by now around maybe 50 plugins.. I started with around 5 then 10 then 15.. I am installing things slowly and rebooting after every install cause I am fussy LOL. I also re checked all permission in security and everything is as it should be. Cheers! Macbook pro 16", 64Gb ram, 8 core 9980HK, ATI 5500M, OS 10.15.2. Pro tools addict who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, even with all it's missing features vs some other DAWS.
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