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DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Teksonik » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:16 pm

Have any of the Wavetable experts created the Waveforms from the Korg DW 8000 ? I watched Espen Kraft's DW 8000 video and he's made some cool sounds for it but I don't see any reason that Dune 3 couldn't replicate them even with a single layer. I've done some similar sounds in D3.

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I suppose it would be possible to get close by simply hand drawing the waveforms in D3. Oh well it's just something to beat the lock down blues....

Here's Espen's video.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky8868Xbej0&t=1114s
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Jouni » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:34 am

I found the waves from http://dbwbp.com/synthbin/Korg_DW8000_Waves.zip

They are in the rom format, but looks fairly simple. Would require conversion to Dune 3 format.
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Kriminal » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:55 am

can they be converted to wav?
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Suonoecomputer » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:24 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLdyOfd15gw :music: The site (link), however, no longer works to me... How or with what (software) could these files inserted in the zipped archive be played? Thank you.
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Jouni » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:56 am

Well, readme describes the format. You probably can open it as raw in any audio editor and then do your magic there, however easier would be to make small program to split and convert as there are many files. Format is 8-bit unsigned and each sound contains several waveforms with varying lengths.
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Suonoecomputer » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:04 am

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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Suonoecomputer » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:41 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_fqy8HpCME I did a Drag & Drop and the editor asked me how to resample the waveform ... Then I think you just have to save it in .wav and have it read by Dune 3 ... Thanks.
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Kriminal » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:49 pm

ok, works here
1. rename .bin files to .raw
2. load into soundforge as 8 bit unsigned mono
3. save as 16/44 mono wav
4 reload, edit out first single cycle at 2048 samples long and save as 16/44 mono wav

they are multi ocatve samples, you only need the first one in each selection

should be a total of 16 waveforms i think, i'll have a go at it later
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Suonoecomputer » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:36 pm

I apologize then I was wrong ... However I did a try to rename the file in .raw and it seems to me that you get the same thing .. But I could be wrong ... Why do you have to set 8 bit unsigned ? Thank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuOMs5UByek
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Kriminal » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:58 pm

if you set it to 16 bit, the files are not the right length (ie not 2048 as a single cycle)

anyway, i got the first 14, then it was a bit wierd

also, its not a good recording, some clipping, and not always zero crossing, so doesnt sound great (as you can only pick the first one)

not really worth the effort imo
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Teksonik » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:28 pm

Jouni wrote:I found the waves from http://dbwbp.com/synthbin/Korg_DW8000_Waves.zip
They are in the rom format, but looks fairly simple. Would require conversion to Dune 3 format.

Thanks I tried converting them but nothing I have installed on this system is up to the task.

From what Krim is saying it's not worth the effort. :?

I was originally wondering if Mark Holt or someone who has been doing a lot of Waveforms and Wavetables were ever able to recreate the DW8000 wavs.

I think he's done thousands of WT's so it seems like he would be able to create the 16 simple waves found in the DW.

I suppose going by the images of the wavs it would be possible to get pretty close by hand drawing them. Maybe I'll give that a go.

Anyway it was just something to kill time. I still say D3 could do those patches in Espen's DW video without breaking a sweat.
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Kriminal » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:57 am

I made a WT with 14 of them, I'll upload it tonight...
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Teksonik » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:39 pm

Thanks. I tried to hand draw wave #2 and ended up with a usable waveform but I don't think it's anywhere near the original DW waveform. :?
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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby HYPNAGOGIA » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:08 am

I think it sounds pretty decent... for 8-bit clips.

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Re: DW 8000 Waveforms

Postby Teksonik » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:51 am

I agree and I still think that Dune 3 might make a pretty convincing emulation. The only thing might be the filter but after a quick Google search I couldn't find out what Filter it uses beyond a 24db.

If you could nail the DW8000 sound with one Layer in D3 then it would allow you to layer several of them in a single patch.

Thanks, I'll give your Wavetables a go tomorrow....... :)
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