uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... problem again...
midi keyboard works fine with orion... BUT... it's being a pain in the rear when it comes down to getting Adobe Audition to record stuff. I tried going through all the options and stuff, but I guess I'm not smart enough for it yet... so I can really use a hand (again... *hooray for the dumb idiot right here... ME!!!*...)
so where I'm trying to get at here is... getting to load a generator and a preset in Orion, and record what I play into Adobe Audition (Which is something like Audicity with lots of makeup, or Cakewalk Sonar, or some other recording + DAW station some of you might be using)...
all help will be much appreciated, thanks guys...
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hardware related questionHmm... playing in Orion, recording in Audition; MIDI keyboard works with Orion, and Audition is capable of recording.
Just make sure when you press record in Audition to switch back to Orion for focus so you can play your keyboard. I think that's how it goes. SoundCloud ::: Facebook
hardware related questionI just thought to mention while reading this thread...... that if there's one thing I'll do different the next time I choose a MIDI controller, is to get one with infinite rotation knobs. It makes switching between VSTs easy if you like mapping lots of parameters to knobs, etc. The XIO that you posted the link to doesn't. Neither does my controller.
This one looks pretty cool, also Novation: http://www.novationmusic.com/products/m ... er/sl_mkii
hardware related questionCool! I just noticed you're out in Victoria. Thought you were overseas.
Your music reminds me of Tool and Danzig,,, In the metal realm at least. You could also slip into the Pere Ubu realm just as easily I think. Vocals need a lot of work, but are unique and convey the potential. US (R+S) has the greatest potential as a 'lead in/hit' IMHO. But yeah, I think if you concentrate on a simplistic interface for now. And get more into your music and OP and Adobe, I think you can do wonders. Big fancy synths and controllers will always be around. Your song writing structure is pretty solid, and really just needs some extra nuances to tighten it up. And that could easily be done with OP and Toxic or Ultran at the minimum. Adobe problems I think could be overcome with setting it to ASIO. From there it should just be a simple connection of your guitar or mic into it and you're good to go. Just make sure your ASIO panel is set to receive from your input or AU, and it shouldn't be any more complicated than that I would hope. Last edited by Dungeon Studio on Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
hardware related questionwell, i did set it to all the ASIO drivers i had listed... none of the inputs are working though... 1st adobe gives me an error at the beginning that the MIDI driver is in use already (because Orion is using the keyboard)... Then, after all the ASIOs I have tried, the input suddenly fails... More errors... something like "the device has failed to run" or something like that... (BTW Dungeon, where abouts do you live? you ever been to Victoria)?? Anyway, if someone can help me out, that will be great... I'll try to disable the MIDI contact with Audition.
hardware related questionAs something that would appear as a general rule, and the experience of many, seems things just refuse to work for two things at the same time.
So, with that in mind, you only need MIDI and ASIO for Orion, being that it's where the main things are happening. Audition can work in WDM/DirectX/DirectSound mode. It's for recording audio anyway so it doesn't need ASIO for it, and it doesn't really need MIDI for that either, does it? To simplify... Audition: DirectSound mode, no MIDI Orion: ASIO, yes MIDI Then just set Audition for recording as if you're recording an mp3 file from a player, but instead fire up Orion and do your stuff, while Audition records in the background. Although, I'm wondering.... why don't you just make a song in Orion, record automation and any audio you have from external sources, and then just stream it to a wave file? SoundCloud ::: Facebook
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My Audition has the following drivers... 1.)ASIO DirectX Full Duplex Driver 2.)ASIO Multimedia Driver 3.)ASIO Toneport UX2 (This is what I use when I'm recording guitars and bass and vocals - I got this one with my Line6 Toneport UX2 audio interface...)... 4.)ASIO4ALL V2 5.)Audition 3.0 Windows Sound No drivers that read "Direct Sound" - stupid Audition >.<... No matter which ones I choose from those, they all show the same inputs... and none of those recording inputs is an internal source, they're all recording from the laptop's mic, I tested each and every one of those, I'd snap my fingers at the laptop's mic, and it would receive sound. Now, if I turn on Orion, that dumb Audition just stops recording - period. Gives me errors. And make a song in Orion, well, I make the drums and synths on Orion, stream them to wave/mp3, and import them to Audition so I can carry on recording guitars and drums (I find it easier to edit the tracks on Audition). I can't even figure out how to record the keyboards in Orion directly to the audio track or something... I tried recording into the generators, it didn't turn out too hot.
hardware related questionTry putting Audition with number 5.... Windows Sound. The only one that's not ASIO... lol. And of course, you put ASIO for Orion.
Ok, now.... as far as the recording thing goes, you need to set up the Windows recording. The process differes if you're using XP or Vista/Windows 7. Basically, what you need is the Windows Mixer, mute the mic and line in and in its recording options set the new source... one that would say "Wave" or in some cases just "Stereo Mix" or someplaces it would just say "What U Hear". If you're on Vista/Windows 7, I think you can set the source individually for application, so you should get "Orion" in the list and just select that. I'm not sure about the Vista/7 settings though, I'm on XP. But that's the general idea. And seriously, why can't you just record automations in Orion, and stream the song? It sounds a lot more easier. SoundCloud ::: Facebook
hardware related questionThat sounds pretty crazy Taxi - you can use the UX2 ASIO to record your mic's and guitars in Orion. But setting Audition to this driver produces errors? For me, I can have OP and WaveLab open and set to my Programma ASIO and record fine in either. Audition should be the same I would imagine? Now the only other thing is what are the settings and/or streaming between the two? I try to keep all my stuff at 16bit/44.1k between OP and WaveLab. Maybe if you have your ASIO or Audition et al set to 24bit/96k, that's what's killing the recording? You may get away with it for OP - cause it's pretty smart. But Audition may be set to only record at the 'basic level'? (I think WaveLab's like that too. It allows me to work with any size of file, but if I'm recording into it it should be 16/44 only.)
Victoria's a beautiful place. Been out that way over 10 years ago. Would like to get out there again soon. But from what I'm hearing, you guys are getting snow like Toronto these days, so maybe I'm better off at home? :superlol:
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can't really seem to figure out the "new source" part on my windows, i opened the mixer, has 4 controls... recording (the only one of the controls that i can change), then line in, mic, and stereo mix (which are just gray... can't touch them... except for muting them)... there is no way of changing sources... no option... and i don't even know what "recording automations" mean, i've never used orion for recording... back when i first started out with it, i'd compose, lay it all out on the song playlist - and stream to wave, there we go... done... bam...i have a song... boom... but when it was time to bring in guitars and vocals, i started using orion only for drums and it's synths, i'd stream those bits to wave, and import them into Audition. Like I said, I find Audition more easier to edit single tracks and add effects and stuff - on the other hand, I find Orion easier to compose stuff... if you can elaborate what recording automations mean, that would be great. here's what i tried on orion, opened a generator, armed Orion for recording, and played my keyboard and the generator would start showing me the notes. but that's not what I'm intending on doing, I want it to record an audio file. Can't make it do that because I don't know how to play around with recording stuff in it.
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Oh no no... you got it wrong :-p.. UX2 ASIO to record guitars and vocals works fine on Audition, never tried recording with it in Orion (like I said before, I don't know how to record in Orion), but if I set Orion's output to it, it works as well. This is when Audition gives me an error; at the beginning because of the Midi Controller being used by Orion, and then with the ASIO drivers if Orion is running as well (except for the UX2 ASIO). And my Audition is set at a basic level too. But Audition just says "Driver can not run".
hardware related questionOk, at the moment both Audition and Orion are running, and I press record with Audition set to "Audition 3.0 Windows Sound" driver (No ASIO), and this is the moronic error that I get.
Device: Realtek HD Audio Input Error Code: FF9-5-0044 [80004005] Info: Device could not be opened. Sometimes the last 4 digits of the error are 0003 instead of 0044. God knows why it's being such a retardo. I tried looking the error up on the internet, but no connection to Audition or Orion what-so-ever, but apparently, it occurs in Sonar and Cubase too. **Man I feel so royally plugged in my rear right now... this is seriously giving me high BP and I'm about to throw my computer out the window !!! YAY!!!** I'm thinking of one last thing, get a cable with 2 male ends (like the ones headphones and mics have), and try recording with that...
hardware related questionSo I got the problem sorted, what I did was...
1.) Go down to the electric store, got a double male cable, had a smoke, came back home... 2.) Did my laundry... had a chat with a friend and complained about how pissed I were... 3.) Came back home, plugged the line in cable to my laptop's jack, and plugged the other end of the cable to my Line 6 Audio Interface... 4.) Ran Audition 1st so it can't complain about how Orion got to go on a date with the Midi Keyboard, and set Audition to "Audition 3.0 Windows Audio" driver (both input & output)... 5.) Set Orion's output only through the Line 6 Audio Interface... Results: It now works like a charm, recording's great, everything's sorted. No errors from either Orion the Big Boy, or Audition the whiner. Everything's getting along and happy as a clam (including me...)...
hardware related questionGlad to hear you got it sorted out. I had to do some weird things with my audio box to get sound from my Train Simulator to video. Much like you, it was this optical loop kinda thing. Took me the longest time to figure out the switch on my AU box, the settings on my Roland SP808, the settings on Fraps, etc. Now that it all works, it's like 'DUH!'. But at the time it really had me stumped.
The only thing that get's easier is the amount of complications.
hardware related questionYeah, pretty much the same here... "DUH!" :-p... and agreed, complications are the only thing that are getting easier, nothing else!!! if you ever see my setup, you'd wanna jump of a building, there are so many cables going around here and there, it's almost a maze of wires, and untangling them is the worst part... but any way, thanks a lot for all the help!!! appreciate it...
btw dungeon, you said you've been to victoria, come on, you should know then that we don't get snow here :-p, in fact we've got the best climate in all of canada :-p!!!
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