Something I find a pain is having to load an mp3 I want to sample into Soundforge/alternative, then pick the part I want and resave as wav to import into Orion's sampler
Out or interest, could it be possible to have an mp3 or large file import feature in the sample
It opens - select large wav or mp3
It then opens up a rough (not too zoomed in) view to cut out only part of that file
It asks where to save/name the wav cut
and opens that in the usual sampler view
Just an idea
Sample and cut mp3Moderators: Christophe, Mark
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Re: Sample and cut mp3did you try mp3cut ?
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Re: Sample and cut mp3I don't think that you will get an audio editor. But it's not such a big deal to convert to wav anyway. Orion focuses on the main things. As there are thousends of audio editors with good functionality out there, it would be a waste of time to try to reinvent the wheel.
Re: Sample and cut mp3My idea was not for an editor, it was for a simply mp3 cut and conversion tool
Yes, there are full audio editors, but these are slow to open due to the granularity Bear in mind that we all use Orion in different ways. I'd rather see novel/creative tools than a new effect that most people probably have a VST of anyway for example. At a guess, Orion users are at the hobby end of the spectrum than pro producers - and will probably stay that way. To give you an example - look at how something like Reason 6 handles multiple takes of audio recording. I dont use audio recording much, but if I did, it would probably prevent me choosing Orion.
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Yes, but why implement audio editor functionality? It takes a lot of time and even you do 100% or nothing. A bit here of that and a bit there of this takes away too much time you need to implement other things.
Re: Sample and cut mp3See it as an mp3 trimmer, or short section 'taker' that simply makes it possible to very quickly take a bar or sound out of a whole mp3 song to load into the sampler.
ccarrieres - sorry, I missed your post earlier. mp3cut sounds just right actually. I'll give it a go! 'A bit here of that and a bit there of this takes away too much time you need to implement other things' DaZoid - from my point of view only, it depends if those things will be of any more use for me.
Re: Sample and cut mp3mp3cut works pretty well actually
One issue it's brought up though - in the grooveslicer, the 'Recreate Groove in Piano Roll' is only really useful if the sample is an exact bar/loop. If it's too long or short, then recreated beats will be totally off There needs to be an option to select the start and finish of the section before the groove is detected. Also, if you move the slice points around, this new layout wont be recreated. ie. press detect and set as 1/8ths if you now move some of these points around, or delete some etc when you go to the piano roll, the notes will still be as 1/8ths The slices you've selected arent recreated in the piano roll, just the originally detected set These bugs/flaws make it quite difficult to use the slicer to the best of its capabilities. My workflow for example would sometimes be to sample a beat from a song - just one bar If I dont get it exactly cut to the start and finish, the sliced groove wont map nicely to a bar in Orion If I edit the groove slices, these wont be recreated properly in Orion
Re: Sample and cut mp3of course you can !
just right click on a slice and select Recreate Groove in Piano Roll Yamaha CS-30, Roland SH-1, Roland MKS70, Focusrite Scarlett 18i6, Yamaha FS1R, Oberheim Matrix 1000, Novation Remote 37SL, Korg Legacy, Alesis M1Active 520, Novation Launchpad Pro, Push2, Intel i7-7700HQ
Re: Sample and cut mp3 - and groove recreate start/end selecI'll try to explain again:
- load a cut section of a wav track into the sampler - there's 1 bar, but with extra at the start and end - press groove view - slice how ever you want Now, if the aim, as it often will be, is to have a sliced groove recreated, BUT ALSO in time, then the extra parts at the start and end will mess this up. If you delete a slice off the front, you simply get a In otherwords, unless your loop starts and ends exactly in-line with a bar/number of bars, when recreated in the piano roll, it will be off time and need laborious adjustment My proposal is: two moveable tags (snapped to slices) on the groove view, for the start and end of a section that's to be recreated in the piano roll. Any slices before or after will be excluded. If this is unclear, I'll upload samples
Re: Sample and cut mp3you supress the blank slice and move everything to the left , voila !
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Re: Sample and cut mp3That doesnt work. Two reasons
1. all of the other slices will be spaced for a loop that's bigger than a whole bar (or bars) 2. there's still no way to do anything about the last slice being too long if it exceeds the natural end of the bar Seriously - try it. Record a section of a song. Edit it so that it's slightly longer than a loop - ie. recreating an error that will happen. Now try and slice it so that the loop recreates nicely. I guess quantizing is one way to fix it, but still, I think my idea is a good thing to have anyway. Looking into it, it turns out Image-line's sample slicer products may achieve this.
Re: Sample and cut mp3This is what I was getting at re trimming a larger loaded mp3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y5rAdi- ... re=related
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your audio editor might have a "loop play" so that you can know how your cuts are working.
Re: Sample and cut mp3Sure, that works. But the point being, it requires uploading into an audio editor
Seems ImageLine thought some folk worked like me, since they bothered with Edison and SliceX, although they're a bit clunky and I dont like them to be honest. Orion's sampler is so nice and intuitive!
Re: Sample and cut mp3Rich/team
just wondering if this got any consideration? Simple start and end markers in the groove slice window that would define the range of what's recreated in the piano roll. It would I think need a new moveable bar for the end of the last slice
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