"Pulsation of Drone KS" MSEG2&3 animation stuck

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"Pulsation of Drone KS" MSEG2&3 animation stuck

Postby pluranium » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:22 pm

Hi! I am some experiencing strange animation behavior with the "Pulsation of Drone KS" factory preset with Dune 3.6 in Logic Pro 10.7.9:
Select "Pulsation of Drone KS", press middle C, observe MSEG1,2,3,4: MSEG1 and 4 animate as expected, while the animation on MSEG2 and 3 is stuck at 0, and the dot is jittering in place (even though their effect can be heard, so no issue with the sound, just the animation)

Is this a bug?
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Re: "Pulsation of Drone KS" MSEG2&3 animation stuck

Postby Kriminal » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:46 pm

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Re: "Pulsation of Drone KS" MSEG2&3 animation stuck

Postby Marcin » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:34 pm

The patch "Pulsation of Drone KS" has an ARP1 activated on the 3rd voice, where MSEG 2 and MSEG 3 use "Note On" mode. In this case the ARP notes constalty resets the MSEG for that voice (so the animation as well). What you hear is other voices that 3rd (i.e. in the Mod Matrix the MSEG 2 and MSEG 3 are not used for the 3rd voice at all). So all's good here. :)
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Re: "Pulsation of Drone KS" MSEG2&3 animation stuck

Postby pluranium » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:16 pm

Oh that sounds wrong though - if voice 3 doesn't use MSEG2 or 3 it should not mess with their animation. Ideally there should be an animation per modulation that actually uses the MSEG as a source, and no animation at all if it's not used.
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Re: "Pulsation of Drone KS" MSEG2&3 animation stuck

Postby Richard » Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:30 am

Of course you are right, but...

The MSEGs are polyphonic in Note On/Off mode. This means that depending on how a patch is structured and how many keys you press, the MSEG position could be anywhere. What you see is just one particular voice out of (potentially) many. I suppose we could improve it for this specific patch as you suggest, whether this is generally useful though I don't know.
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