Dune 3 GUI

[zyguli]

After using Dune 3 for sometime I have some ideas concerning the shortcomings of the GUI.

1. I wish the GUI was in 16:9 format, so I could use a skin more fitting for the panoramic displays thus using the screen real estate more efficiently;
2. I wish all of the three oscillator tabs were visible at all times for example on the left;
3. I don't think Mixer deserves so much space - I think "Unison voices", "Master", "Common" sections should be optimized and integrated with the Mixer section.
4. Arps/Sequencers settings should have their tabs in the bottom section.

In conclusion, using the 16:9 format for the GUI and optimizing space should allow all of the oscillator sections be seen at at all times and make working with the synth faster.

I have attached a super awful mock up made in MS Paint presenting the idea.

[Teksonik]

You would have to copy the entire Osc section or it wouldn't make sense:

D3 061922-1.png

In the end all three Oscs are only a mouse click away now so you wouldn't save anything significant.

There are skins with an alternative layout like Duneton. You might bring your idea up to them:

https://killihu.vstskins.com/duneton/

Duneton.png

I will agree that there is room on the bottom for an Arp/Seq tab and this suggestion has been made quite some time ago. It might then be possible to show all 32 steps at once.

[Teksonik]

As a tip, instead of using Osc 2 or 3 in a single voice layer try using another voice layer instead.

That way you can have different filters, FX routing, envelope settings, etc for each layer and by using the Solo buttons you can easily select certain parts to hear without using the mixer sliders.

Light up all the Solo buttons for every active voice layer and then you can mute parts by turning off individual lights.

[zyguli]

You would have to copy the entire Osc section or it wouldn't make sense:

D3 061922-1.png

I believe I have done just that in my mock-up, though a single oscillator section expands in it horizontally - that's one of the reasons to widen the GUI.

In the end all three Oscs are only a mouse click away now so you wouldn't save anything significant.

Exactly, and I don't like that. I like to have a bird's eye view of everything, especially that I'm working with my Nektar Panorama.
I like DS Thorn GUI because of this.

There are skins with an alternative layout like Duneton. You might bring your idea up to them:

https://killihu.vstskins.com/duneton/

Duneton.png

Thanks, I'm aware of them, however, these skins don't address all the issues described above.

[Teksonik]

I believe I have done just that in my mock-up, though a single oscillator section expands in it horizontally - that's one of the reasons to widen the GUI.

You covered up the Mixer section in your mock-up.

Good luck with your request. Maybe Synapse will completely redesign the GUI to suit you. Or as I said you could contact people who make skins for D3 and see if you can convince them to do it....

[zyguli]

I believe I have done just that in my mock-up, though a single oscillator section expands in it horizontally - that's one of the reasons to widen the GUI.

You covered up the Mixer section in your mock-up.

Mixer was moved to the right, which can be seen by expanding the view of the image. And I don't think it is possible to make all of the oscillators visible at once at this point by making an alternative skin.

Good luck with your request. Maybe Synapse will completely redesign the GUI to suit you. Or as I said you could contact people who make skins for D3 and see if you can convince them to do it....

I don't think that the redesign would be made for me but for better usability.

Although this is a wishlist section of the forum, I sincerely apologize if I offended you by the request. You seem to be very upset by it.

[Christophe]

noone is upset, Tek just wants a new synth to test, He doesn't want Richard to waste time on reskinning an old synth

[Teksonik]

I don't think that the redesign would be made for me but for better usability.

DUNE 3 is perfectly usable right now. I've made hundreds of patches for it and used it in almost every project since it was first released.

Although this is a wishlist section of the forum, I sincerely apologize if I offended you by the request. You seem to be very upset by it.

Not offended or upset in the least bit. I'm just being realistic. The work and cost of completely redesigning DUNE 3's GUI after all these years is probably not a high priority at this point in time.

The request to make all three Oscs viewable at the same time was made long ago and well.....here we are.

But like I said good luck with your request.

[Teksonik]

noone is upset, Tek just wants a new synth to test, He doesn't want Richard to waste time on reskinning an old synth

Not upset at all and yes there are other projects ongoing right now that would be a better use of Synapse's development time.

I don't have any problem with them doing an additional skin as long as the current design remains an option but yea to me it would be a colossal waste of time......

[HYPNAGOGIA]

This thing can't be done with just making a new skin.
There are too many things that are shared, that just have to be in the same place.

Few examples:

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; Background positions
OscBackground1 = 42, 30
OscBackground2 = 42, 30
OscBackground3 = 42, 30
OscTypeBackgroundVA = 42, 240
OscTypeBackgroundWT = 42, 240
OscTypeBackgroundFM = 42, 240

Backgrounds for VA/WT/FM would need a duplicate for Osc2.

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; Type switch positions (VA, WT, FM)
OscTypeSwitchVA = 80, 224
OscTypeSwitchWT = 126, 224
OscTypeSwitchFM = 171, 224

Same as above, it's shared between OSC1 and OSC2.

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; OSC 1/2 knob and switch positions
Semi = 246, 72, Middle
Fine = 324, 96, Small
Detune = 246, 150, Middle
Spread = 312, 150, Middle
Reset = 372, 156

You get the point.
It would need code changes for all of those to be independent between oscillators.
Only THEN you'll be able to position them on a skin.

Frankly, I don't see this happening at all.