Hi guys, Jules / Digital nature here
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I've been using Orion for a while now, but it seems to lack in some areas:
1. There is no automation for the Waves Bundle 5 plugins
2. There is no double an entire mixer channel function. For example I have a VST plugin loaded on a channel, with tons of effects loaded on the inserts and I just want to double that channel with all the effects and settings. All I can do now is load each and every effect one at a time, which is taking so much time and its frustrating.
3. Also I could use a Freeze track function like Ableton has. For example I have this VST loaded with all sort of effects and I just want to double the track, then freeze it and cut the generated wav and reverse some bits of it.
4. Being able to shorten the patterns in the Song Playlist without adjusting each and every pattern in the Pattern editor. For example I have this huge build up and at one point I want a sudden drop of 1/4th.
5. I could also use a function like this in the Song Playlist, right click on a channel and being able to see what effects I have on that particular channel.
6. Also in the Event editor I could use a function to select a portion of the automation and then copy it somewhere else in the track. For example I made this 16 bar lead that has some external effects on it and I've automated one of them, say Filter Cutoff, in the Event editor I've made the automation for 16 bars. but then If I want the same automation to go on for the next 16 bars I have to use the Pointer or the Line to draw it up again, would be much easier to just be able to copy that portion of automation and paste it or drag and drop it for the next 16 bars.
These are my suggestions for now, when others come into my mind I'll post them here.
Cheers,
Jules
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you cant autoamte DX stuff, and Waves Shell doesnt work...
in V8, you can do this, you will be able t save you set up as a template and load t up again
you can stream an individula track to wav....just solo it on the mixer and render song to wav, then import it via Audio Tracks
no sure what you mean? can you not copy the pattern and change the length of the new one? in V8 you can stretch patterns by by grabbing them with the mouse...
In V8 you can do this with Automation Tracks dont ask when V8 is out, no-one knows yet Windows 11 Home - 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400 2.50 GHz -32GB RAM
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Waves 5 automation, Double a Mixer channel, Event editor, FrToo bad dx auto cannot be implemented as you can do wome wild stuff with waves plugs. its not that much of an inconvenience though as i usually stream all wavs and load them up in Live and master everything out, but would be much easier to have everything in one place.
Well that was the whole point of the freeze function, not to stream wav file and import back. yeah i can copy the patterns but what if i have 30 channels i wanna shorten out at once i need a fast tool to cut up everything i need in the Song playlist Ohh and one more thing i find annoying For example I have this long pad, let's say 32 bars, it only plays that pattern if i hit play from where the note hits, If i hit play one bar after or in the middle of the pattern, it doesnt trigger.
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Don't hold your hopes about freeze.
If you only need to cut patterns from playing by a certain amount of steps, you can just place empty pattern, set the grid snapping in the playlist configuration menu (the cfg button) or disable the snapping, and just move empty patterns where you want it to stop playing. Just to be clear on this, you can overlay pattern over another. So, if there's 30 patterns you need to cut, place 30 empty patterns right after the point you want to cut notes, select them all and move them over the patterns in front.
It's only logical that a pad that's done with MIDI/notes will only play from the start, unlike an actual audio clip, isn't it? Last edited by HYPNAGOGIA on Sat May 09, 2009 6:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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nothing to do with Orion, try asking Bill Gates...
but you said you wanted to edit/cut/reverse the wav file, so whats the problem?
you need better methods, not tools. like i said, in V8 you can do this (lasso all patterns and stretch)
of course it does, why would it work any other way, its not a wav file, so unless a note is being triggered, you wont hear it. Windows 11 Home - 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400 2.50 GHz -32GB RAM
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Waves 5 automation, Double a Mixer channel, Event editor, Fr
What can yo do with Waves plugins that you cannot do with Orion's native effects? Whatever it might be, I daresay it's nothing that would justify such a stupidly convoluted workflow, especially given Live's reputation for less than pristine audio quality.
Again, that kind of thing is appalling workflow. The only way to do good work is to keep within your limitations.
I can't see how that would work. How would Orion know which things to cut and which not to cut?
That's because it would trigger incorrectly. i.e. You would hear the attack phase of the envelope at the wrong point in the arrangement. What would be the use of that? If you use an audio track, it will pick up playback from wherever you are, so maybe that is an option? Dell G7 (Hexa-Core i7)|Cubase Pro 10||Analog Keys|Ultranova|MicroMonsta|Uno|Skulpt|Craft Synth 2.0|
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Cubase can manage it with folders and groups. It display a big pattern which represent a whole folder, and then it can be edited. (cut duplicated moved...) concerning the tunes on myspace, its not my taste, but its very well produced. (+ I always hate myspace bitrate...) Orion 8, Live 8Le, Cubase 4 LE, Cantana, APC40, UC16, Fostex PM1MKII, Q9550, 4G0, 1,5T, 22"+15"
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