With the new orion v8 i need.Moderators: Christophe, Mark With the new orion v8 i need.Dungeon:
It was the OP who said "(as current it creates clicks-pops at the start and at the end of the samples choped)" which would indicate the slice being cut at something other than negative inf.. Actually suecae references the same issue and even gave a similar response as I did :daumen: (the start/end sample position is causing the popping on slices) Your issue is completely unrelated. I've never experienced pops or clicks while exporting to wav or mp3 (streaming). However, Your issue sounds possibly throughput related with the hard drive not able to keep up.. but thats just a stab in the dark. Your CPU and your SoundCard/Interface do not matter on mixdown since its not truely streaming real-time as you'd think. I believe Orion will actually wait on the CPU to free up cycles when it needs it on mixdown and this is OK since its not trying to playback real-time. So in essence you could have maxxed out a quad-core uber system sequencing/recording but could mix down on a single core pentium 3 if you wanted to. It would just take a reaaaally long time. You might want to put in your own ticket/request thread for the issue you are having.
With the new orion v8 i need.pop-clicks etc are not created on every slice.
To get an idea what i am saying and i am sure you heared it 1 million times all of you but you dont hear carefully. open wasp and play 1 note. Mute unmute with fast clickings. Do you hear clicks when the sound mutes-unmutes? Its the same with the sampler when going from 1 slice to another. if we have a small fade in-out we minimize the possibility to have that kind of clicks. Last edited by Vicious_Angel on Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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With the new orion v8 i need.change the ADSR settings
With the new orion v8 i need.Good point El Capitan. I think it's possibly this 'cycle' issue as well. Just odd in how one stream pass is kinda 'poppy' and one right after it is fine? But yeah, chunky VST's and/or big samples coming off the HD is probably the culprit.
With the new orion v8 i need.
I totally agree. My post wasn't meant to be viewed as a negative.
With the new orion v8 i need.The question is, when does Rich plan to retire? Are we talking Freedom 40, Freedom 45, 50, 55? I know OP isn't no Cubase or FL success - so hopefully Rich doesn't have to wrangle it till he's 70 or more.
"I just found the exact orange Roland used for the TR-909. Tell everyone OP 82.6 is on it's way!" ld: :superlol:
With the new orion v8 i need.Richard is it possible for v8 exported midi patterns do not contain bank/program data?
Every time i export a midi pattern i have to edit (remove program/bank data from midi file) it first on reaper before i move it to live. D/S i believe orion can have FL success but richard possibly have a day job and family and he cannot spent all his time for orion. All you need is somewhat a stable version, an up to date manual, a version with more than current audio editing (audio warping also) and a nice critic on computer music/future music etc. Orion lost a LOT of customers/potential customers in the past because it was crushing like hell. Now its the most stable host (yes more stable than live on hosting vst) and it has a unique and elegant interface. Emu1212m | Alesis micron | Edirol pcr500 | FOCAL CMS 50 | Senheiser hd 25-1 II | Core i7 etc
With the new orion v8 i need.
I agree. The interface is very elegant and encourages creativity. The opposite is true in a couple of other unnamed hosts imho which front some feautures which might be considered more advanced then what Orion offers currently. But if the interface sucks and will take a lifetime to work past, what do I care for high key feautures?? Sucess can also be viewed in different ways, if we are talking about increased customer base I think the potential is huge. O8 can also definetly be a big push forward if what I hear about it will come true. And let us not forget, the biggest marketing campaign cannot replace a great number of satisfied users who are willing to tell others about their experiences!
With the new orion v8 i need.it boils down to publicity
if you can afford a double page ad in computer music magazine, you will get customers, if you cant, you wont (or any mag) ads cost a HUGE amount of money in mags like that (and tho it may be hard to believe, the internet is not the be all and end all in marketing...)
With the new orion v8 i need.I hear you on the ads machinist. Still, if we accept that there are little or no money for traditional advertisements you can very well aim to create a buzz-word even though the signal to noise ratio is going more and more in the direction of noise on the net.
Sending promotional copies to magazines. Getting people talking (on the internet, but also in real life), offering up Orion in compos (at KVR and elsewhere). The ideas if followed trough can get quite interesting. These things can perhaps not go head to head with a huge ad-campaign, but they can get you somewhere better then where you would land without these kinds of initiatives. I believe the best way is still to get satisfied customers who have something unique to tell other musicians and producers about. That the message travels from mouth to mouth from someone whose opinion you trust. Last edited by suecae_sounds on Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
With the new orion v8 i need.I think Orion is well known and respected by now. It's the pure simplicity that brings people around. And the fact it's comp's and sidechains are so damn easy. And Bus control too. One can do some serious Dub on OP - which I don't think is as easy on Cubase et al?
And not to slam hosts and users - but Orions made for 'playing music'. Be it a catchy bass riff and drum beat all made from scratch, to a totally unique arrangement devoid of trendy hooks and effects. So I think newbies would like to load their Construction Kits into OP and lay down some Happy House or Hip Hop Supreme quickly. And though it can be done, it's not OP's 'forte'. It's really based on the 'coda' principle - which even irked me when I first got it. But once you get a groove going, the rest really becomes easy. So I'm sure 'Mr. Moneybags' Rich is doing just fine now. And the other food for thought... What kind of offers is he getting to sell off OP down the road? IK, NI, Arturia... Going once, going twice.... Never thought I'd see Yamaha buying Steinberg, And to toss XG Works out for Cubase still makes me cry. You'd never do that to us, would you Rich?
With the new orion v8 i need.advertisement is def need, no doubt about it. Whether you can afford it or not is a different issue.
With the new orion v8 i need.Part of the cost of doing business is advertising. The question is if you spend say $10,000 on an ad campaign will it net you more than $10,000 in new sales.? So if Rich spent 10,000 on advertising and he gained 202 new sales even at the sales price of $99 he would double his money. Sounds simple but it's a gamble.
With the new orion v8 i need.It's a gamble Rich tried many years ago in Computer Music magazine. Not sure if it worked, but the lack of ads since then suggests not.
With the new orion v8 i need.
I agree.
I agree also. Well vst-hosts world is not like showbiz. Negative publicity in showbiz is a good publicity. In software world is unhappy customers which leads to bad words on forums and messages like "avoid it like shit". Message on kvr like "this is the new shit" from respected people there are always a really good publicity. What impact would make if in the monthly CM that travels all the world and people see on the dvd vicious_angel droping bombing beats in orion? But from other side Vicious_Angel has to load another program to chop his loops and timestrech them. Think about it. Its not only the adds that can make a bussiness model a success. An application can succeed if it has something new to offer. Someone is not willing to leave his dailly habits for new ones if he is not gonna earn significally something new. Dont come at me with the excuse that people done great recording on 4 tracks we are living on 2010 not on 1970 and also that i dont need X to do Y stuff. We are not working all the same. A vst host is a tool as a mobile phone is. Someone uses his phone for speaking with other people, someone else for writing sms's and another one uses it for all the above but also to use it as a gps. Now we are going to shop for a new mobile phone in the year of 2010, do we gonna buy a new mobile that cannot send sms? No because we have some standars of what a mobile phone must have. All the extra are a good thing always but first it must offer what all other mobile phones offer. In case of orion as i see it, it can take its share from the market but before that it must offer to newcomers what so far they consider the essential tools for a vst host. Nice conversation btw Emu1212m | Alesis micron | Edirol pcr500 | FOCAL CMS 50 | Senheiser hd 25-1 II | Core i7 etc
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