about my needs and why
i need 4 inserts because i tend to use more than 3 effects per channel it is frustrating to add a container every time i load something, more clicks for no reason. At least richard can adds straight 4 inserts and remove the MultiFX control for the mixer.
8 buses->
#1 kick/snare
#2 other drums-percussions
#3 bass
#4 synths
#5 pads
#6 fx sounds
#7 vocals
and so on.
Also if you rewire orion to a different host you will see the busses as an insert to the other host. 8 are more welcome for 2 reason then.
I tried to move some projects to live throught rewire and the audio is always out of sync maybe it has to do with that busses that are not pdc enabled. I have to double check this and i am not sure that it is the problem.
Also if if you want precise sidechain from a bus it is not doable atm because busses are not pdc enabled.
fade in/out on sampler-> load a loop (something like a disco loop that is not perfectly synced) grooveslice it manually if you want, add samplers low pass filter and close it to taste. You dont hear click pops? I was trying a lot of time to find what i was doing wrong until the time i saw that gold 0,4ms fade in-out of live's clips options (live adds to all its clips as an option a fade in-out at start and end of an audio file to minimize the chance of clicks-pops).
render is stable yes it produces the track as you hear it inside orion ofc except that sometimes it adds some silence at the begining of the file,
And what happens if you want to export a drum loop re edit it every time to be in time?
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Bones thank you very much for your time on this always informative with your own way:)
I dont want any major changes in the mixer just an option in the menu for the mixer eq to be vissible or not, something like that . Using orion mixer for me is somewhat a guesing procedure so it would be nice if it wasnt taking all that screen i am more of graphic eq guy lets say.
Well automations is a problem. At least he could just implement the current system in the playlist window.
Well i didnt want to compare live and orion at all. They are different beast all together lol. Orion is the king of vst host and ableton is just the best loop player hehe
I use orion every day to create a song but when things starts to get complicated (automations, grouping channel, sidechains) i move the project to live, i bought live to work together with orion not to replace it.
For the compressor is at least is a big welcome for me, when i started to work with the new live compressor of version 8 i understood what i was missing all the time in orion compressor (for the sidechain part), i mean the lookahead and the really fast attack time.
As for the plugins of orion ? They are top quality for me (except the compressor) i still hit my head hard to find a replacement of orions reverbs-delay's.
The most pain in the ass for me is that i cannot use external compressors like this which is something i consider top stuff. Well richard owns orion and if he dont want 3rd party sidechain in his program i can understand that but is also a good selling point for newcomers.
And hey bones i sent you 2 email all this time maybe i went straight to spam folder or something, i am gonna send you a new email from my hotmail account.
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With the new orion v8 i need.Lol so true !
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then there is the skin problem..and from what ive seen here, Rich isnt keen on adding more fx slots, not while there is a solution at hand already (even if it means 2 more clicks)
With the new orion v8 i need.Machinist you dont pay attention.
I know that nothing of my wishlist is not going in. But it is better to just say what i believe than not say nothing. At least at version 10 maybe richard will consider something of these Last year i was shooted by bones and others with a forum member called crimson warlock if i remember corect because we were asking for templates. At least templates-song merge is somewhat in. Thats the reason i am express my vision here because nice upgrades always starts in threads like this with me bones and others hit hard each other until we find something usefull for all As i said nothing personal to you but i am an old guy on sonic syndicate oyps synapse audio forum Last edited by Vicious_Angel on Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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We had that feature for a while but Rich took it out years ago. I'm not sure if it was causing problems or what, but it didn;t stay in for very long.
So don;t use the default skin. My mixer strips are less than half the width of the default skin's, so my mixer rarely takes up more than about one-third of the screen [half with the Master Section as well].
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It's not somewhat in.... it's already done Anyway... on to the real matter I'm posting
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technically not possible, unless it is hardwired to a very specific VST plugin, in that case it would work. I'm curious which one you have in mind and why. Admin - Synapse Audio Software
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With the new orion v8 i need.I'm pleased for the AT's and Templates. Do I need them....? Just nice to know they're there. But it sounds to me like you're cooking up something MUCH more than that Rich? Aside fro the few quirks and quarks of 7.62 for me, it's rock solid and a dream to work with pretty well. AT's and Templates are like cup holders and pin stripping for me now.
What else is going 'under the hood' for OP8 may I ask? It sounds like this things going to be in the Formula 1 or something?
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That's great news! No hurry here but I am really looking forward to the new features.
With the new orion v8 i need.Thanks richard for the great news
As for the eq maybe you didnt understand me. If the knobs on reset position of orion eq dont affect the sound then it is just a visual thing then. Just a skin with the send/return, inserts, volume slider, busses selector, pan mute and solo. I use orion eq to cut some bass give some air and the usual stuff but if i want to be more surgical i have to load another eq. I really like the eq live has, in orion i tend to load the rea eq from reaper. Not a great coloring eq but i like the low/hi shelf filters, low/hi pass filters etc to sculpture the sound as i want it. My original idea was that orion is a mixer centric vst host. A good old recording mixer always had a good colorfull channel strip. Ok here you are i said it Edit: But seriously i dont need nothing like that, even as it is with orion eq atm is all fine just a way to save some space on the screen when orion mixer is on view. Anyone checked the sampler for the groove sliced click pops thing? Last edited by Vicious_Angel on Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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I am familiar with this issue. I demonstrated the groove slicer for a friend to make some Hip Hop oriented beats for his musical project a couple of weeks ago: and ran into the same thing as you.
With the new orion v8 i need.Vicious, do you want to not see EQ at all, or just hide it? Cause seems that hiding (like in modular environment) causes issues, so I rearranged the strip for you, it doesn't show EQ section and it's really small (from 84x615 to 72x380), but I guess you didn't see it. That's the the least I can do about it
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