Because of the win 11 situation, will you support linux?

[HerrNyman]

A lot of people find win 11 unusable for many reasons: Telemetry, AI, no local account, spyware,, tpm 2.0, lots of stuff running in the background. Win 10 is soon over execept for some special longterm license options.

As more and more of us will not use windows 11 and mac is not and option because to expensive or will not invest in new hardware. We wonder will you start supporting linux or is this a no go for synapse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4JBmcO9Mgs

Regards
Christian

[Marcin]

Thank you for your input! We will consider it for the future, but currently do not have any immediate plans for Linux ports.

[HerrNyman]

Thanks for the quick answer. If you look at my last post about linux that I posted some years ago, 9000 people have read that post, I think the momentum is there, why not try a fund raiser?

[HYPNAGOGIA]

It doesn't mean that all 9000 people that saw your post are interested.

I mean, I probably saw it, and I'm not interested

[Dave]

There's nothing wrong with Win 11.

[HerrNyman]

Is there anything wrong with supporting linux? I do not understand the slightly negative attitude? There are serious concerns with the win 11 situation, see the video no bs. You love win 11, no problem, but this thread is about linux ok?

[Chill Science]

Targetting Linux would require substantial R&D - what you are proposing is turning a race car into an all-terrain vehicle and that requires deep re-engineering at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Euros to specify, implement, test, release and maintain.

The only way for this to become a reality would be to:

- Increase the price of each Synapse Audio VST
- Introduce a recurring subscription model with tiered pricing
- Imposing higher licensing restrictions
- There would have to be substantial demand from the Open Source user community
- A tectonic shift would need to happen i.e. users flocking away from Windows Operating Systems to Linux
- The risk would all be on the Synapse Audio side, with no ROI guaranteed

[HerrNyman]

These arguments have been around for 20+ years, sorry but outdated old news. Working for microsoft?

Let's make something clear:

Reaper 1 main programmer support Win, Mac, Linux and Linux ARM.
Bitwig Studio, small team, Win, Mac and Linux.
Traction Waveform, small team, Win, Mac and Linux.
Adour/Harrison Mixbus, 1 man making Audour and the Harrison team, Win, Mac and Linux, soon Linux ARM.
UHE Synths small team, Win, Mac and Linux.
HY Sequencers are all now, Win, Mac and Linux.
AirWindows plugins, 1 man, Win, Mac and Linux.

There are more, you get the point?

How is this done? Cross platform libraries and compilation tools. Some tools have support for different platforms, so yes sometimes it can be impossible to port, it depends. But you do not need millions upon millions of dollars/euros.

If you took a look at the youtube video link you would clearly see what the issues with win 11 is, also have a look at the comments.

400 million win 10 users can not or will not upgrade to win 11, that is not a fringe minority, ok?

After this win 11 issues hit, there have been the biggest surge of users going to linux from windows ever, period end of discussion.

There is no need for arguing against linux, you love your win 11, I truly don't care, but don't ruin it for everbody else, having a free stable system that you can use on almost any computer is a win for everyone regardless, it is not a bad thing that should be avoided at all costs.

I truly don't understand why anyone would take offence in a perfect sensible question and a suggsted solution to make change happen?!?

It is not 1990 anymore and linux is workin fantastic, better than windows by a large margin, it is not hard to install, linux support so insanly lot of hardware no need to install any drivers most of the time, the stability and speed is unmatched. It is free for all. Is that so bad?

[Dave]

Is there anything wrong with supporting linux? I do not understand the slightly negative attitude? There are serious concerns with the win 11 situation, see the video no bs. You love win 11, no problem, but this thread is about linux ok?

Nothing wrong with supporting any format, but a small company has to choose wisely how it spends its time/money.

Linux is such a tiny % of the market, its probably not worth it to SA.

The Win 11 "situation" is that it works very well. If people don't want to upgrade, then don't. If their machine is so old they cannot, that's a diff story.

Don't pretend there is a problem just to give your request validation.

That aside, you already have your answer

Thank you for your input! We will consider it for the future, but currently do not have any immediate plans for Linux ports.

[HerrNyman]

I got my answer and I am happy with that, again thank you.

But this is the second time my thread have been obscured by false claims and a sort of agression against just the mention of linux support. Is there some unchecked ego problem somewhere?
To say that there is no issuses with win 11 is just not factual correct and that linux is just a tiny minority is completly false. There is also a chicken and the egg situation, if no one will support linux no one will use it because of lack of software. But as more software comes to linux it becomes a real option for usage. If you had all the expected software run on linux, a real choice, would the user still go for windows or use linux?
Some people will choose familarity, a lot of people have issues with windows and will probably switch, tech savy people would most probably change because they see the technical benefits, privacy concerns are valid and that would also be a major factor for a lot of people, also the moral aspect around the buisniss model of microsoft and personally Bill Gates is yet another factor for people. The issue with windows has many aspects as you can see.

Best wishes for the new year to everyone, let's make the world a better place for everyone

[Dave]

There is no aggression, or even arguments really ( from me anyway)

You or anyone can request whatever they like. I was just giving an opinion/answer.

I dont object to anything, I was just being realistic.

I've spent years asking for things that never got implemented, so I understand your frustration.

Merry Christmas/Holidays

[chk071]

Is there anything wrong with supporting linux?

Yes. Very little money to make with it.

And, frankly, your defensive/aggressive attitude speaks volumes.

[Teksonik]

I love Linux. I've tried a dozen different Distros and DE's and currently have two Linux systems, Mint and Xubuntu.

But having said that I wouldn't advise any developer to spend time on Linux versions as this point. After spending time on many Linux forums it seems like no one wants to pay for software and they are often running it on outdated or odd hardware which could be a support nightmare for any developer.

Hopefully one day Linux will be a major player in the music production world but I don't see that happening in the next five to ten years if at all.

The biggest boost to Linux may come from the fact that millions of computers do not qualify for Windows 11 and Win 10 will at some point be abandoned.

But for me there are dozens of plugins I use on a frequent basis that have no Linux version and to expect their many different developers to drop everything and make Linux versions for what would likely be very little financial return is just not reasonable. No, I don't want to even try running WINE, WinBoat, etc.....