Dune2 install as non admin

[quaki4]

Hello,
how can I install DUNE2 as admin/ for a non-admin admin rights user account?

With win7 and ableton I have an admin account and a "restricted rights" user account.

I do own the previous plugins Dune and EKS Pro.
The vst dlls are installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Synapse
Don't know if there were 64bit versions then.

For installation of DUNE2 i use admin rights, but then I cant see the dune2 plugin in ableton with my User account.
DUNE2 does work only in the admin account.
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Synapse Audio\DUNE 2

To copy the folder into the User account didnt work out.

I think ableton didnt find the serial in the user account when it scanned for plugins.
Dont remember the exact message.

i checked the registry and compared the Dune vs the Dune2
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Synapse Audio\DUNE
only one entry with a 1
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Synapse Audio\DUNE 2
four entrys with i1, i2 MidiCC and MT

the uninstall.dat shows some text fragments and install paths.

I would like to run dune2 as a normal user, because all the other plugins did/do
run with that user account.

Which paths do I have to change or move?
Which registry things do I have to change?

I did install the demo version for a short time before, but did uninstall it. (admin account)

I did try to change the user acount to a full rights account... but dune2 will not be visible there.
wanted to switch it back then.
with the admin account I can see dune2 if i install it with admin-user-account.
when i switch to the real admin account the messages soundbank not fount and wavetable not found appear.
and a reinstall message.

*thanx for your help*

please fix the installation routine or it would be nice to tell me a workaround.

[Kriminal]

Do not install anything in Program Files

C/VST is a good idea

[Richard]

Did you run the installer with admin rights? If yes, then you can only use Dune 2 from an admin account.

To use Dune 2 from a user account, the installer must be run from the user account as well.

[quaki4]

To use Dune 2 from a user account, the installer must be run from the user account as well.

That's what I wanted to do. Install it with a user account. But it didnt work.
Install Paths the isntaller required:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Synapse
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins64\Synapse

I couldn't disable the 64bit install path. Dont need it by now for my "ableton live" host (32bit).

Error message:
Create File failed; code 5. Access denied (german: zugriff verweigert)

Did you run the installer with admin rights? If yes, then you can only use Dune 2 from an admin account.

i did try it with admin rights and it worked... Yes, I am aware of that i can then use Dune2 only with admin rights....

Thank you very much for your help/reply

[quaki4]

Do not install anything in Program Files

C/VST is a good idea

I did try it with user rights and tested the following install paths on another drive:
D:\Test dune ... dll has 12.533 kb (so its the 64bit version, which overwrote the 32bit one, )
D:\Test dune

then i tested the following paths
D:\Test dune ...dll has 12.240 kb
D:\Test dune64 ... dll has 12.533 kb

for vst 32 and 64 bit ... the installer did complete... oh wonder...

It also did install the library to
C:\Users\Username\Documents\Synapse Audio\DUNE 2 ... without problems...

I did then copy the dune 2.dll (12.240kb) to the
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Synapse folder

But ableton live didn't show it, even after plugin rescan, in the plugin folder with user rights.

I switched to the admin account, the dune2.dll did be visible.
After starting it, the wavetable files and so on were prompted as missing. No wonder, I didnt install them, so
i copied them to
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Synapse Audio\DUNE 2
After restart, I could use Dune2 with the admin account.

So in the folder
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Synapse
by now there are the following dlls:
DUNE BE.dll (a german version from a musci magazin, which shows up in ableton)
DUNE.dll (the first version of dune)
EKS Pro.dll
another dll (dont know exactly the purpose)

So i by now dont know really, what to try next?

I think i did for a long time install no vst plugins.
but the other plugins i own didnt make such trouble with user rights. ok they at first did, but then "they were fixed" as far as I can remember this was one time. dont know if i am allowed to state the name of the plugin/company here. izo****

think i didnt change any folder setting, like write protected and so on.

greets.

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update:

did copy the Dune 2.dll to
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins

and it works with user rights....


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update2: did move it to
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Synapse2

was this a problem because of the "demo" installation...?
did read something in the other english posts...???

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[Richard]

I tested it today with Live 9, works fine. If anyone else has trouble installing into a user account here's the exact steps I used, from the very beginning:

- Created restricted user account, named "testuser"
- Downloaded & Installed Live 9 Trial (32-bit)
- Created "testuser\documents\Ableton\VstPlugins" folder
- Installed Dune 2 into that folder (since I'm testing 32-bit here, I hit "Ignore" when asked about 64-bit later)
- Run Live 9 and then scan the above VstPlugin folder

All programs/installers above must be run without admin rights (should be the default anyway).

[AudioFix]

I tested it today with Live 9, works fine. If anyone else has trouble installing into a user account here's the exact steps I used, from the very beginning:

- Created restricted user account, named "testuser"
- Downloaded & Installed Live 9 Trial (32-bit)
- Created "testuser\documents\Ableton\VstPlugins" folder
- Installed Dune 2 into that folder (since I'm testing 32-bit here, I hit "Ignore" when asked about 64-bit later)
- Run Live 9 and then scan the above VstPlugin folder

All programs/installers above must be run without admin rights (should be the default anyway).

Thanks Richard. Have been trying to do this for the past 2 hours and your way worked first time. Wish I had found your post earlier.

[Caroline12]

I tested it today with Live 9, works fine. If anyone else has trouble installing into a user account here's the exact steps I used, from the very beginning:

- Created restricted user account, named "testuser"
- Downloaded & Installed Live 9 Trial (32-bit)
- Created "testuser\documents\Ableton\VstPlugins" folder
- Installed Dune 2 into that folder (since I'm testing 32-bit here, I hit "Ignore" when asked about 64-bit later)
- Run Live 9 and then scan the above VstPlugin folder

All programs/installers above must be run without admin rights (should be the default anyway).

That's what I wanted to do. Install it with a user account. But it didnt work.
Install Paths the isntaller required:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Synapse
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VstPlugins64\Synapse

I couldn't disable the 64bit install path. Dont need it by now for my http://healthworldjournal.com/phen375-a ... ew-by-hwj/ host (32bit).

Error message:
Create File failed; code 5. Access denied (german: zugriff verweigert)

[cloudstar76]

can any one pls explain to me on how to apply these methods to dune 2 with studio one 4 but on mac.

[Richard]

Installation with elevated rights and UAC are Windows-specific. It is neither possible nor necessary to do this on the Mac.

Btw if extra security is the reason to use UAC, it is important to realize that this is rather limited:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control

See the "Security" section.